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Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
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Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#382Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#383The situation is absolutely awful for anybody who needs significant memory or storage (or devices incorporating such). Even people who think they have enough for the next few years already could end up with an unpleasant surprise if they e.g. have a stick or two of RAM go bad or a GPU fry. I have a few machines with aging sticks that I'm hoping will manage to hold out until when/if things improve.
I've been using computers for more than 40 years now and the one component I have never seen fail is RAM. All the other bits in a computer I've seen fail.
I've seen plenty of DIMMs fail ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#384So the 1970s oil crisis caused a shift that included fuel efficiency rules. For like, the whole time I've been a software engineer, memory footprints of a lot of software have crept up, even when they aren't really doing more. The memory situation currently is a mess. But ... is it bad enough to get us to _change_ how we build?
Or it’ll accelerate the push to the cloud even more making the client even thinner.
Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but nobody needs more RAM except for companies. I'm amazed you could write this in apparent seriousness.
Be so kind then and tell me what a normal citizen would need more than 8GB of RAM for, if it isn't for professional work or a specialized hobby? A Mac with 8GB of RAM is blazingly fast for any task your average person would need for it to do. Which doesn't include gaming, mining crypto, or heavy AI models. Maybe I've missed something? So please tell me exactly what task requires more than 8GB of RAM which is so neces…
A Windows 11 machine with 8GB of memory is borderline unusable.
We can go in circles about how developers need to optimize their applications, etc but truth of the matter is that 8GB is considered pretty low for a lot of "average" use cases. MacOS is an exception to the rule and even 8GB on MacOS is limited with multiple Electron apps.
Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You need 8GB at the very most I call total bullshit on that. I need more.
Why would you need more compute power than other people? An 8GB machine is already way beyond capable for anything a consumer - and most professional - can throw at it. And why in the world should the government force tax payers to subsidize your extraordinary computing needs?
Have you ever used a computer?
Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#387Doesn't solve the present shortage, but perhaps this is a good opportunity for software developers to start caring about memory usage again, since consumers may be forced to keep their existing hardware for a few more years.
Honestly? Is it even going to be a drop in the bucket? This push is from massive data needs. The amount of ram code uses becomes an even smaller percentage of the growing pool.
Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#388The situation is absolutely awful for anybody who needs significant memory or storage (or devices incorporating such). Even people who think they have enough for the next few years already could end up with an unpleasant surprise if they e.g. have a stick or two of RAM go bad or a GPU fry. I have a few machines with aging sticks that I'm hoping will manage to hold out until when/if things improve.
I've been using computers for more than 40 years now and the one component I have never seen fail is RAM. All the other bits in a computer I've seen fail.
I used to work in IT recycling, and let me put you at ease, RAM goes all the time.
Common scenario:
200 PCs at least 6 years old, often over a decade old, come in on pallets.
We pick up the first 50, stack them on benches, and power them on.
At least 10 wont post.
Of that 10, reseating memory and other little jobs fixes 5.
Of the remaining 5, replacing or removing memory gets 4/5 them to post.
Testing those sticks in other PCs confirms the RAM is dead.
Into the scrap it goes.
The remaining PC is dead mobo, PSU or needs a new CMOS battery.
Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#389Doesn't solve the present shortage, but perhaps this is a good opportunity for software developers to start caring about memory usage again, since consumers may be forced to keep their existing hardware for a few more years.
Yea here's hope'in. Memory management as been really inefficient for a long time.
Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months
#390The situation is absolutely awful for anybody who needs significant memory or storage (or devices incorporating such). Even people who think they have enough for the next few years already could end up with an unpleasant surprise if they e.g. have a stick or two of RAM go bad or a GPU fry. I have a few machines with aging sticks that I'm hoping will manage to hold out until when/if things improve.
I'm saving a ton of money by simply not upgrading. I used to do upgrades every 1-2 years just to keep up on things, pass the old box down to my son or otherwise donate it. Now I intend to keep my current setup for 7+ years. Its 2 years old next month. I may even stay with it longer. I just see no reason to upgrade with things how they are. I considered a Mac Studio a couple months ago. Price was up but might have pul…
This is how cloud-only systems that the LLM industries are creating the conditions for will happen. Good luck not owing anything.