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Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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No, this is not good, in any way, except for AI shareholders (of which I assume you are one, else not rational to support this position). Paperclipping here, greedily optimizing for shareholder value above all else. Please stop.

Some people really so need the /s huh

sadly, Poe's law scales exponentially on HN

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Anecdotally, RAM failures are more common than they used to be in previous decades, I assume due to increased capacities and smaller process nodes. Looser manufacturing standards may also play a part. The component category I've never seen fail is CPU.

You didn't hold on to your Pentium 4 long enough. :-)

Anecdatum, but mine still works :D

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is not good, in any way, except for AI shareholders (of which I assume you are one, else not rational to support this position). Paperclipping here, greedily optimizing for shareholder value above all else. Please stop.

Some people really so need the /s huh

To be fair, the AI boosters are saying the exact same thing but mean it seriously. There is no way to distinguish without a tone indicator

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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post #20

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> and the shareholders. Your comment is an illustration of exactly what is wrong with this website. Given his preceding statements, I sincerely do not believe it is sarcasm.

I'm quite sure he's being sarcastic. "The best good ever is to maximise shareholder profits" is a tired and cliched caricature that some people unfortunately take seriously. But this is too on the nose.

The fact that, on HN, you can't be sure of that, tells you all you need to know.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally, RAM failures are more common than they used to be in previous decades, I assume due to increased capacities and smaller process nodes. Looser manufacturing standards may also play a part. The component category I've never seen fail is CPU.

You didn't hold on to your Pentium 4 long enough. :-)

My main machines were PowerPC G3s/G4s/G5s back then with the P4 boxes I had taking secondary/tertiary roles, so that lines up.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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I’m even more confused by the economics of the frontier model businesses. Even if they got preferential prices, they are still paying an inordinate amount for their infrastructure. If it wasn’t economically feasible without VC/Nvidia money 3 years ago, how is it possibly economically feasible now at 10x prices for things like memory?

It's pulling the ladder up behind them. OpenAI bought up more co tracts for wafers than they could even use. But now that means everyone else has to fight over what's left. This makes it too expensive to compete with OpenAI. No upstart can really afford to build infrastructure.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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The situation is absolutely awful for anybody who needs significant memory or storage (or devices incorporating such). Even people who think they have enough for the next few years already could end up with an unpleasant surprise if they e.g. have a stick or two of RAM go bad or a GPU fry. I have a few machines with aging sticks that I'm hoping will manage to hold out until when/if things improve.

I'm saving a ton of money by simply not upgrading. I used to do upgrades every 1-2 years just to keep up on things, pass the old box down to my son or otherwise donate it. Now I intend to keep my current setup for 7+ years. Its 2 years old next month. I may even stay with it longer. I just see no reason to upgrade with things how they are.

I considered a Mac Studio a couple months ago. Price was up but might have pulled the trigger if not for the delivery date that was almost 4 months out. Sale lost. I suspect a lot of people are like me right now and we'll start seeing significant drops in consumer spending on electronics the next 2-4 years minimum.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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I guess it's high time to stop using memory inefficient programming languages for any serious work.

Been long past that time, probably 15-20 years past. It's not even the languages its the 500 different layers of abstraction and abominations like Electron.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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The situation is absolutely awful for anybody who needs significant memory or storage (or devices incorporating such). Even people who think they have enough for the next few years already could end up with an unpleasant surprise if they e.g. have a stick or two of RAM go bad or a GPU fry. I have a few machines with aging sticks that I'm hoping will manage to hold out until when/if things improve.

I've been using computers for more than 40 years now and the one component I have never seen fail is RAM. All the other bits in a computer I've seen fail.

I've seen some fail. Might have had to do with the fact that the computers were literally flooded (river came up faster than the sandbaggers could keep up) while running.
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