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Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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Re: Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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> If you have been living in a cave for the past few months then you would have missed the success of OpenPhoto I don't live in a cave, and while OpenPhoto is promising, it's quite a bit premature to call it "a success", especially in the presence of competitors boasting millions of users such as Picasa and Flickr. Let's talk again once OpenPhoto reaches a million users.

It's a bit boring to make this statement once it has a few million users :).

I agree with you on it being premature though :). And it's not exactly the goal of the project.

Disclaimer: I started OpenPhoto.

Re: Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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> Currently Google’s Picasa and Yahoo’s Flickr lack the same openness What lack of openness exactly? I can go to Picasa at any time and download a fully original picture (the very same picture I uploaded to Google's servers). I also have an API I can use to access Picasa and Flickr. > With all of the above reasons in mind and all the features that are being added its going to be hard to find any reason not to use Ope…

> What lack of openness exactly?

I believe the openness the author is talking about isn't merely the ability to get a photo back out. It's the ability to have your photos be portable. That you have the ability to store the photos wherever you'd like. And the ability for anyone else to clone and modify the application. And your ability to seamlessly start using that without having to download and upload your photos all over again.

Much of it is philosophical but if Flickr had embraced this model it wouldn't have stagnated for the last 5 years.

> Yeah, Linux ...

I know. We're trying to move away from open and free. In 4 weeks the name won't even have "Open" in it.

> Ah... ok, I wish I had read this first and I wouldn't even have bothered posting this.

Don't let this discredit the entire article. Even if you disagree with it there's some very forward thinking approaches to how to store and handle user data. The web would be a better place if applications in the future at least adopted parts of it.

Disclaimer: I started this thing.

Re: Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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I'm the founder of the project. Benjamin is one of our community managers and I'm glad he wrote this. The value of OpenPhoto differs for many people. Benjamin stated why he uses it and even volunteers his time to help make it successful. What I'm focusing on is making it easy and useful for people to regain control and peace of mind that all their photos are safe, in one spot and enjoyable. We are doing this a few di…

How the hell do I delete my account and/or photos? There seems to be no way to deactivate my account, or delete my photos. Also, it took like 6 hours before it pulled any photos from Facebook. No offense, but all in all, this was a really frustrating and unhappy user experience for me.

Drop an email to support@openphoto.me.

Sorry it took 6 hours to import your photos from Facebook. We didn't anticipate having so many people initiate imports so we throttled ourselves a bit much (on top of 3rd party API limits).

Besides the delay in imports was there anything else you found frustrating?

Re: Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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post #11

I'm the founder of the project. Benjamin is one of our community managers and I'm glad he wrote this. The value of OpenPhoto differs for many people. Benjamin stated why he uses it and even volunteers his time to help make it successful. What I'm focusing on is making it easy and useful for people to regain control and peace of mind that all their photos are safe, in one spot and enjoyable. We are doing this a few di…

> Benjamin is one of our community managers and I'm glad he wrote this.

You shouldn't, really, the hyperbolic tone is monopolizing all the discussion. Hardly anyone here seems to have even heard of OpenPhoto, so starting with "Unless you've been living in a cave" is basically insulting to everyone.

Be modest, focus on the value of your project and don't insult your readers, much less the readers that might want to become users.

Tell him to tone it down.

Re: Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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Does it mean that if I go pro now, I pay USD 19.99 only during the first year and then USD 29.99 from second year onwards?

Good question. $19.99 forever. We'll make sure that is clear.

> We'll make sure that is clear.

There is no update on the web site (https://openphoto.me/signup) yet.

Re: Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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What's the cost of the hosted pro version?

Currently $29.99/year but discounted to $19.99. We'll have more plans in the future.

Thanks! The signup page ( https://openphoto.me/signup ) isn't arranged like a typical pricing / signup page. I think people expect something more like the following:

* https://www.drupalgardens.com/pricing * https://purchase.websynthesis.com/plans.aspx?oid=

but of course you should do testing to learn what works best for you.

Re: Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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So, I was curious and tried installing it locally for a test drive.

The installation was painful (issues with imagemagick, for one). I installed from git, according to their installation guide [1].

The result is broken (for me/in general) on several levels. Let's start with the best one:

The configuration file that you generate during the intial setup of the application (from a UI. It's not my fault, I didn't miss anything, this file is totally autogenerated) has a different idea of the configuration parameter name for the password salt. Result? The admin account ends up in the db unsalted (or .. whatever their configuration returns for 'value not configured'), because it searches for 'passwordSalt' in the config and previously just dropped a 'secret' in there.

Why did I even notice that? Because I was hoping to use that thing with my wife. Two accounts, both allowed to upload. Seems to be a concept that this project doesn't support: For all I can tell only _one_ user is allowed to upload pictures. You can have multiple (local) users, but for that you need to read the code and edit the config file directly. Yeah - and figure out the salt bug above.

Uploading failed with a division by zero error when I used ImageMagick as backend.

The gallery sometimes _didn't show the image, just the tags and the general UI around_ (in both Chrome and FF). Quite a bad thing, since that is the only usecase.

It took me ages to understand how to delete images. The only way I found is hidden in some 'batch manipulation' dialog.

I could go on. It feels unfinished and rough. It doesn't solve my basic needs. Replacing Picasa and Flickr would be great, but this app is from away from it.

1: http://theopenphotoproject.org/documentation/guide/Installat...

Re: Why OpenPhoto will defeat Picasa and Flickr

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Email, Facebook and Twitter. Not yet Google Plus.

Do you have any short-term plans for Google Plus?

Not at the moment. But it's something that's easy enough that it'll just make it into a release before we officially plan it.
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