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Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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I feel like the "GitHub is a mess" conversation is a little forced at times - I spend a significant portion of my work day in GitHub and while there have been an uptick in outages lately, it still feels like a very solid platform. I guess I personally wouldn't categorize it as a "mess" and the conversations I read about it here make me think I'm using an entirely different product than everyone else.

When you work at an enterprise that depends on Github, frequent outages are actually a pretty big deal and begin to impact productivity in a real way.

Yeah and if I was an enterprise I would definitely be self hosting with Forgejo or Gerrit or whatever. But I think for most hobbyists GitHub is still totally fine.

I use it quite a lot and the first time I actually witnessed downtime myself was yesterday.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

#352

Cursor, which is now owned by Elon, who tried very hard to get all manner of data about citizens with his intrusions? I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this isn't a great idea. He'll use it to feed Grok. I'm not a big fan of Github right now either but I wouldn't consider this alternative due to its ownership chain.

I wouldn't even feel comfortable cloning from it, let alone contributing. If you decide to host your project there, please mirror it somewhere sane as well.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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Instead of creating one more centralized alternative, it's best to invest all effort into a decentralized solution, like Radicle[1][2] or federated Forgejo[3][4]. [1] https://radicle.dev/ [2] https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad%3Az3gqcJU... [3] https://forgejo.org/ [4] https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/federation/src/branch/m...

you mean you dont want a singe company to have all your code?

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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git is such a good platform for decentralized tech. Forfeiting that advantage is just criminal. What I really want (and almost have) is a local GitHub for me and agents. With 4+ orchestrators working with a ton of subagents, things get difficult to coordinate. Several days ago, I went back to plain git and it was real slow and abrasive to work with. With some wizardry applied, I effectively have an "Excel for worktre…

I just use git with a remote and a custom CI system. The whole thing is trivial to build. All these forgejo etc are kind of over complicated software. Open Office of the modern world.

In a project with two levels of submodules and tens of worktrees, you cannot "just use git" :/ GitHub does not help much either.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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Ahhh okay. They've definitely had some growing pains. By "fall from grace", I assumed you meant some sort of ethical/trust failure.

That too, ever since they decided everything on GitHub was fair game for training AI without respecting its license.

Of course, cursor is going to be even worse than github in that realm.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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> You need centralization (or at the very least, a standard) for that. We have a standard! It’s this great decentralized VCS called git. For most of the stuff integrations do, they’re just showing code or commits — both of which are readily available in a copy of the repo. Probably the one thing that’s missing is a standardized webhook system so that your git repo storage could tell integrations when stuff changes. T…

Git is absolutely miserable without things that GitHub, GitLab, and others provide, and there's still a huge ceiling to grow into in terms of layering on UX on top of Git. In my opinion, Git is holding software development back. Git only cares about lines of text. This is not enough in today's world.

Lots of standards are terrible without the actual tools on top of them (try making an HTTP request with just a network socket).

But that doesn’t mean we should have single centralized tool that does everything.

I’d posit there’s no big loss if you broke these things up and each had their own copy the repo (if needed):

- CI/CD

- issues

- code review/pull requests

- release artifact distribution

- discovery+social credit for open source

You could host your repo on any dumb storage somewhere that speaks git+ssh or git+https and each tool could pull from there.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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What I don't understand from the blog post is what's different in this offering than github - is it just the agentic tie ins where I can ask my agent to make changes while browsing the PR? Are there any fundamental differences, ie ways of working that solve the worktrees problem?

Expect a lot more from us. We wanted to release a beta so people could start experimenting with our scalability and extensibility themselves. Over the next few weeks, you can expect a handful of features starting to change source control to better understand and work with agents.

Experimenting with your "scalability?" mean?

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

#360

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I feel like the "GitHub is a mess" conversation is a little forced at times - I spend a significant portion of my work day in GitHub and while there have been an uptick in outages lately, it still feels like a very solid platform. I guess I personally wouldn't categorize it as a "mess" and the conversations I read about it here make me think I'm using an entirely different product than everyone else.

When you work at an enterprise that depends on Github, frequent outages are actually a pretty big deal and begin to impact productivity in a real way.

It feels to me like this is a case of very rapid increase in load from AI pr's more than product quality degrading because of cruft or poor maintenance. It's annoying but I'm not confident that alternatives will do better in the long run vs GitHub (which I'm guessing will improve with time)
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