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What do you mean by "Github's fall from grace"? What happened?
https://www.githubstatus.com/history
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atproto is not the next thing, there will be more social protocols to come tangled will struggle to have private repos that align with user expectations for RBAC, atproto ACL permission proposal is insufficient, Bluesky is not interested in alternative proposals, the centralization of atproto is most prominant in who has write permissions to the repos
While private repos are usefull, I do not think that is tangled's main proposal at all. I am just thinking you do not like tangled because you don't use the social features of github and so don't see the point here. I can understand that, but then tangled is just not for you ? And yeah ATProto is not the next thing, but IMO having a portable identity and services that can act as "one big single app" are requirements…
you are incorrect and this is why it's advised not to project the answer but ask a question instead
for clarity, I do in fact use github's social features
I also believe that the idea around the atmosphere that the point of atproto is to have open data is completely misaligned with how most of society wants their data handled, this is based on my talking to people IRL, outside of the echo chambers of social media, what's actually happening is more and more people signing off because of toxicity
open source and small devs do not pay the bills, github is financially sustainable because they have enterprise clients, same for gitlab and bitbucket
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atproto is not the next thing, there will be more social protocols to come tangled will struggle to have private repos that align with user expectations for RBAC, atproto ACL permission proposal is insufficient, Bluesky is not interested in alternative proposals, the centralization of atproto is most prominant in who has write permissions to the repos
> tangled will struggle to have private repos that align with user expectations for RBAC, atproto ACL permission proposal is insufficient, Bluesky is not interested in alternative proposals, the centralization of atproto is most prominant in who has write permissions to the repos This isn't entirely true because we're working on our own extensions to the protocol that will enable full-fledged RBAC at a knot/repo leve…
what I hear is another path to app centralization, regardless of your intent, this is what comes out of custom extensions to a protocol
bluesky should have actually been open about the permissioned design process, posting your own proposal to a blog and not entertaining other proposals, or even joining the broader conversation that was happening, is not open in my book
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#334GitHub is a mess so lets throw our code into a Musk owned enterprise, famously a different shade of mess? How about neither? Man I wish we stuck with Subversion at this point.
Or Perforce. Perforce, in my experience, just worked. It also has sane conceptual names for things, a good CLI, SDKs, visual tools, cool features like workspaces that Git completely lacks, etc.
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https://www.githubstatus.com/history
Ahhh okay. They've definitely had some growing pains. By "fall from grace", I assumed you meant some sort of ethical/trust failure.
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https://thehackernews.com/2026/07/grok-build-uploads-entire-...
it seems like they took reasonable steps after. They acknowledged that it happened, fixed the bug that caused it, deleted all data that was uploaded.
I still don’t trust the company that made the decisions that led to that code being shipped in the first place.
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#337GitHub is a mess so lets throw our code into a Musk owned enterprise, famously a different shade of mess? How about neither? Man I wish we stuck with Subversion at this point.
You do know you can run git on your own machine, on pretty much any Linux/Unix based server, run it entirely peer-to-peer if you wish... or use Gitlab, including self-hosted Gitlab, or one of many other Git based servers?
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#339also crazy how the noisemakers about rails scaling for GitHub have gone quite all of a sudden i.e Github being on the main rails branch.
anyways the future is decentralized - a developer from say Russia/ Ukraine (Crimea), Iran etc - wouldn't be able to access GitHub but surely they can access decentralized repos without the permission of not being from a forbidden country as if they're at fault for their country's ills.
Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative
#340Hi all, my name is Tomas. I am one of the developers on Origin, and I was one of the founders of Graphite ( https://graphite.com ). Happy to answer any questions about Origin or source control in general!
Why do I need to link github for this?