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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by watutalkinbout »

bamboozled wrote: post #426
codingisfreedom wrote: post #169

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I don’t support Netanyahu, and so does close to 50% of Israelis. Qatar is spreading fake information and is funding Hamas as well as anti-Israel classes in major US colleges. If you don’t trust Netanyahu then you should disregard the link you shared as well and that just strengthens my point.

The amount of selective outrage directed at Jews, Israel and "Zionists" is proof to me that the fake information campaigns are super duper effective and I'd say dangerously effective. I have friends who are generally psychotically outraged with Israelis and some how just pretend all Israelis are scum / should be "disposed of" or something, and they should "go back to Europe". I see almost zero concern for people of S…

One pertinent issue is that the US isn't providing billions in arms funding every year for all the others on your list.

It's one thing to see bad things happening. It's another to know they are being directly enabled by your taxes.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by yoavm »

giov4 wrote: post #501
yoavm wrote: post #488

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Thank you for confirming my theory in such a direct and clear way!

hah you make me laugh, trying really hard, so typical from your society! problem is the world now knows, no need to cry about antisemitism. keep trying, the truth is clear, you are only doing bad evil things since long time and your government and ministers states it publicly too! If my ministers would claim the dream of killing kids or people I would feel totally ashamed of them and I would not support it online spa…

I haven't lived in Israel for more than 10 years, it is not my society, and yet I am ashamed of the current goverment and never ever have I supported them online. I have done more in my lifetime to oppose these people than you will do even in 10,000 years, in campaigning, in arrests, in protests and in court. I wish your posts made me laugh too, but they actually fill me with sadness.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by rbanffy »

perpetualpear wrote: post #428
karim79 wrote: post #44

Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

When such statements/actions are attributed to Ben-Gvir, I assume they and the objective nuanced truth are basically the same. I find it wild how people who are not like him defend him.

I find it disappointing that people I once respected revealed themselves to be like him.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by datakan »

n4r9 wrote: post #404
crnkofe wrote: post #397

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I'm kind of hopeful AI some wikipedia-inspired AI "oracle" will happen in the future. Why not use some central AI to separate fact from fiction (faster than trolls and griefers can come to muddy the debate).

Possibly, but is an LLM is capable of this?

No

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by giov4 »

yoavm wrote: post #532
giov4 wrote: post #501

Earlier quoted context omitted.

hah you make me laugh, trying really hard, so typical from your society! problem is the world now knows, no need to cry about antisemitism. keep trying, the truth is clear, you are only doing bad evil things since long time and your government and ministers states it publicly too! If my ministers would claim the dream of killing kids or people I would feel totally ashamed of them and I would not support it online spa…

I haven't lived in Israel for more than 10 years, it is not my society, and yet I am ashamed of the current goverment and never ever have I supported them online. I have done more in my lifetime to oppose these people than you will do even in 10,000 years, in campaigning, in arrests, in protests and in court. I wish your posts made me laugh too, but they actually fill me with sadness.

I hope that sadness will keep you motivated to oppose any type of violence, oppression and genocidal attitude on this planet.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by nervai »

nielsbot wrote: post #490
gosub100 wrote: post #471

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The left and right are noticing and agreeing on this issue.

agreeing, but unfortunately a lot of the motivation on the Right is anti-Jew hate.

As someone leaning left with big disagreements with the US right atm, I think the right in America would feel the same way if they felt their country's foreign, and to some extent domestic, policy was being hijacked by a small country in sub-Saharan Africa, or Asia (or Europe for that matter). They signed up for America First.

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Post by buellerbueller »

pydry wrote: post #523
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #406

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It's legitimately weird to see anybody defend them, as the immorality is out in the open. The past few years have really opened my eyes to the nakedly tribal nature of democratic politics. Polybius was largely correct when he said that it inevitably degenerates into oligarchy or mob-rule -- but what's especially unfortunate is that the US and Israel appear to be getting both at the same time: A naked oligarchy with j…

It really disturbed me discovering how many nominally liberal people who would react in horror at casual use of the n word are quite comfortable with genocidal racism.

Hell, those folks react in horror at literally quoting the n-word as written in "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn."

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Post by edgyquant »

herbst wrote: post #500
imjonse wrote: post #383

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The whole hysteria about 'fake news' 10 years ago was apparently an outrage against the public being duped, whereas is was in fact frustration that spreading fake news has been democratised.

From my POV the fake news hysteria was bound to trump's propaganda efforts and nothing else really. But that's just a stupid central Europeans POV

But it absolutely wasn’t he was the most famous critic but everyone saw this who looked. Since most people didn’t dive too deep it was/is easy to post things with a spin and little real substance and people would take it is a fact because they really trusted the news outlets to not manipulate

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by brap »

In case you were wondering, responsiblestatecraft.org is owned by "Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft", founded and led by no other than reknowned IRI-propagandist Trita Parsi (currently being probed by US authorities for deportation).

Here are the current frontpage headlines, copied verbatim:

* The never-ending myth of a looming Ukrainian 'breakthrough'

* US is the real loser if Senate passes virtue signaling Russia sanctions

* Is Trump stumbling into a wiser North Korea policy?

* US diplomatic incompetence is tanking hopes for Korean peace

* When US left Afghanistan, China moved in. So how's it going?

* As Myanmar collapses, it’s time for China to step up and be the hero

* China just got one step closer to its own nuclear triad

* Trump wants to talk to Hezbollah. Will they pick up the phone?

* The Houthis could be first big test for Mecca mutual defense pact

* Why the Trump administration will have to accept a Hormuz toll

* How Iran has staved off economic collapse despite the US-Israeli war

* Stop gaslighting, USS Lincoln families didn't sign up for this

So to recap: US bad, China good. Ukraine bad, Russia good. Israel bad, Iran good. South Korea bad, North Korea good. And these people are very concerned about foreign propaganda. Hmm.

Also, did you notice how many flagged comments are in this thread? Did you notice what they all have in common?

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