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If that ethnic group assembles a military group that invades your border and slaughters 1200 of your people in 1 day, then retaliation is expected. FAFO. But I suspect you know nothing about Jews besides social media. Next thing you’ll say we’re not native to that land right? We only lived in the middle east forever, but our food is cultural appropriation too, right?

Explain to me like I'm 5, how a nation capable of such propaganda to install bombs in communication devices, hacked to be bought by leaders of terrorist organizations, capable of bombing the leader of Iran did NOT know about this attack? And if they did know, didn't do anything to prepare for it?

When you get a bit older you will realize that just because someone does amazing things doesn’t mean they are omnipotent and omniscient.

Also, there was a strong political will to try a peaceful approach to Gaza (with thousands of Gazans coming in to Israel for work every day), and with the belief that Hamas wants a peaceful approach as well.

Hamas is planning further attacks now, what do you suggest Israel do about it?

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…

It's already been happening for a very long time. The US' "Operation Earnest Voice" happened in 2010/2011[0] And it's not just state actors. Anyone who was online during the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp trials was likely inundated with media about that trial. Both of their legal teams utilized bots to drive online discussions[1][2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice [1] https://www.latimes.com/enter…

Both of their legal teams utilized bots to drive online discussions[1][2]

Neither of these sources support this claim as none of them include any discussion on Amber Heard('s legal team) using bots?

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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The result of all this is that everyone will hate Israelis, and then thus by proxy, Jews more. The right thing to do would be to stop slaughtering Palestinians. People are not stupid.

This will not be known by most people, the intent is to change what an LLM will answer when you ask certain questions. A friend of mine noted the other day that chatgot will answer "yes" to the question of whether Israel is committing genocide. The Israeli government does not want that.

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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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So this is not what he said [1]? What did he say, then. I’m assuming you must know. [1]: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ben-gvir-calls-killing-30-04422310...

I'm assuming you're asking genuinely so I will answer. For context, I'm originally Israeli, but I only heard about this from this HN thread. He was apparently on a podcast with a released hostage from Gaza. He was discussing targeted assassinations. One doesn't "target" an innocent person. He indeed said that we should target not only those that are an "immediate threat". I'm guessing he meant people who took part in…

> One doesn't "target" an innocent person. He indeed said that we should target not only those that are an "immediate threat". I'm guessing he meant people who took part in October 7th's attack but are not currently fighting.

That's a lot of leeway for Ben Gvir, a guy that clearly doesn't mind killing innocent civilians. For years he proudly hung the portrait of the israeli terrorist Baruch Goldstein in his living room, the terrorist who in 1994 entered a mosque and killed 29 Muslim worshipers and wounded 125 more.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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> And you also create a significant number of perpetually jaded people who will basically never believe you again, even when you're telling the truth. Yes, but they will also not believe my enemies. Making people not believe anything anymore is a classic strategy of propaganda.

Maybe that is the rationale. It's the only thing that'd make sense, but for problem that it doesn't. When somebody, or some entity, lies to you - that entity becomes the liar. People may not want to believe 'the enemy', but that's going to be because of their own ideological reasons, and not because they now refuse to believe anybody. On the contrary non-ideologues may even be ever more swayed towards your enemy as a…

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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#367

I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…

Excellent time to apply for your library cards.

They also contain a lot of propaganda. Do you think these books are genuine: https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/171941.Benjamin_Netany...

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Explain to me like I'm 5, how a nation capable of such propaganda to install bombs in communication devices, hacked to be bought by leaders of terrorist organizations, capable of bombing the leader of Iran did NOT know about this attack? And if they did know, didn't do anything to prepare for it?

When you get a bit older you will realize that just because someone does amazing things doesn’t mean they are omnipotent and omniscient. Also, there was a strong political will to try a peaceful approach to Gaza (with thousands of Gazans coming in to Israel for work every day), and with the belief that Hamas wants a peaceful approach as well. Hamas is planning further attacks now, what do you suggest Israel do about…

And when we both get a bit older, it may come to light that a state leader let this happen, hopefully history will show reality for what it was.

Still, that doesn't absolve Hamas from any actions done, they are terrorists at it's core and the worst type, they are willing to use civilians(and babies) to further their agenda, I don't condone them and personally and think the world would be a better place without them(as any other extremist)

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#369

The result of all this is that everyone will hate Israelis, and then thus by proxy, Jews more. The right thing to do would be to stop slaughtering Palestinians. People are not stupid.

This will not be known by most people, the intent is to change what an LLM will answer when you ask certain questions. A friend of mine noted the other day that chatgot will answer "yes" to the question of whether Israel is committing genocide. The Israeli government does not want that.

Perhaps the Israeli government should read the UN Convention on Genocide and reconsider its behavior, if it doesn’t want to be observed committing genocide.
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