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Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Oh, hello to the account that was created 20 minutes ago and only ever posted on this thread. Fax...

Wonder how you're gonna deflect it this time: https://archivegenocide.com

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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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I've also found this to be true, but also only in relatively modern times. For instance during the Cold War there was an obscene amount of propaganda, but it was mostly true. For instance the wide array of cheap affordable goods in American shelves was constantly flaunted, but not in the least bit misleading. I don't understand the modern effort to engage in 'information warfare' as a thing in and of itself. Each tim…

The difference between American and Russian propaganda is that Russians know it's propaganda.

This was a great, old anecdote. Until they’ve started the biggest European war of the century.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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"The Problem". Interesting. What is "The Problem"?

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Eh... The full quote is even worse, making it plain he's talking about everyone in Gaza:

“I think targeted assassinations should be carried out in Gaza, taking down 30 to 40 every night. Not just those who pose an immediate threat – there are people there who are not worthy of life. They shouldn’t live. They’re not even people.”

It's absolutely plain as day that Ben Gvir is genocidal.

Bots pushing fake propaganda indeed!

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Oh, hello to the account that was created 20 minutes ago and only ever posted on this thread. Fax...

Wonder how you're gonna deflect it this time: https://archivegenocide.com

Thank you for the link. I appreciate the work done to document crimes and other war atrocities. I think all wars are ugly and I personally avoid watching pictures of dead people regardless of their place of origin: Palestine, Israel, Ukraine, Sudan — you name it. I find reading about the horrors of war heart-breaking enough and I suggest people think twice before they open a link with pictures of dead human bodies.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Thats rather simple to understand, for somebody coming from eastern Europe. russian mentality permeated entire region during their enslavement of what is now eastern EU bloc for +-40 years, to have a battleground for nuclear war with west that never came. It happens when all your politics is orchestrated in moscow and you have almost a million soldiers deployed in bases all over the place for decades, with nuclear we…

Well, you could also look at the history and cold war and NATO and so on, but sure, the Orcs are just having inferiority complexes!

Is there a specific point you want to make or are you just vagueposting?

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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You don't start an international terrorist movement, bomb british colonial authorities, use money to influence british colonial authorities, create armed miliciais and massively finance migration to a land that is owner by other people, kill and expell them by violent means from their cities, homes and farms, use your influence to force the UN to partition the land giving the majority and the best land for you, and t…

By owned by other people you meant the Ottomans, right? Cause they seemed to be just fine selling that land. Also “ignoring the partition”? Literally the day the partition was adopted, the Arab league attacked Israel. 6 nations to 1, yet Israelis outsmarted them all (which is why you keep hating us). Read more here (not TikTok) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

Afaik it was forbidden to sell lands in Palestine to Jewish people, though I don't think it was that effective in stopping lands being bought out by Jewish people due to weak central authority and worsening economy.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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It's already been happening for a very long time. The US' "Operation Earnest Voice" happened in 2010/2011[0] And it's not just state actors. Anyone who was online during the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp trials was likely inundated with media about that trial. Both of their legal teams utilized bots to drive online discussions[1][2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice [1] https://www.latimes.com/enter…

Why are you being downvoting for sharing this relevant truth, complete with sources?

There’s bots that automatically downvotes certain topics on HN. I post at times that often coincide with the middle of the night in North America, and I get 3–5 downvotes within the next 5 minutes.

Talking about a country that sets up fake think tanks is a good way of triggering them.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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I've also found this to be true, but also only in relatively modern times. For instance during the Cold War there was an obscene amount of propaganda, but it was mostly true. For instance the wide array of cheap affordable goods in American shelves was constantly flaunted, but not in the least bit misleading. I don't understand the modern effort to engage in 'information warfare' as a thing in and of itself. Each tim…

> And you also create a significant number of perpetually jaded people who will basically never believe you again, even when you're telling the truth. Yes, but they will also not believe my enemies. Making people not believe anything anymore is a classic strategy of propaganda.

Maybe that is the rationale. It's the only thing that'd make sense, but for problem that it doesn't. When somebody, or some entity, lies to you - that entity becomes the liar. People may not want to believe 'the enemy', but that's going to be because of their own ideological reasons, and not because they now refuse to believe anybody. On the contrary non-ideologues may even be ever more swayed towards your enemy as a result of this.

Personally I think the issue is that after WW2 we were left with a large scale and ever growing intelligence apparatus, but with ever fewer appropriate tasks for them. That led directly to the era of recklessly overthrowing nations, often to our own detriment, and gradually transitioned to the modern era of aimless 'information warfare' which I think will ultimately be shown to be very much to our detriment, once again.

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