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How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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starkrights wrote: post #111
cgyvbunji wrote: post #95

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See how defensive people get about CarPlay? Why so emotionally invested? It's buggy and sucks when you are driving someone else's car or a rental. You proved my point too, which is that it's liked because it's better than everything else, not because it's objectively good.

“I don’t understand why people love it so much” and “the system has friction that could be improved” are two extremely different statements with vastly different communications. While it may be constructive to point out and discuss that, hey CarPlay has deficiencies and really could stand to be improved in XYZ way, vaguely gesturing at CarPlay and saying “I don’t get why people love this so much” and tacitly implying…

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Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

delecti wrote: post #127
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #120

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Why? Are you driving somewhere completely unfamiliar where you have no mental model of how to get there every time? I just kind of don't get why people are so into it.

A bunch of reasons, in no particular order: Having my phone visibly in-use makes it easier to avoid the temptation of touching it. I have a long history of playing video games, and seeing a "mini-map" is just how I'm used to navigating, even when I know the way. Having navigation that incorporates real-time conditions helps me avoid construction, traffic jams, or other miscellaneous issues. I have a pretty bad sense…

I guess it didn't occur to me that people might not remember how to get places in real life.

I don't think I could stand to have any sort of lit-up screen doing something in my eyeline when I'm driving. I turn off the backlight on the dashboard when I'm driving at night because it annoys me.

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by VCFundedGenYer »

The article missed a few obvious ones:

LibreWolf and Waterfox rip out the AI features with prejudice. I don't know anyone who uses Zen or Helium (and haven't heard of the latter).

If you have an iPhone 14 or older, you're safe from any AI features and have legacy Siri.

LibreOffice instead of Office

Linux instead of Windows (and I will not be entertaining "but end users won't do that" - because that is false. Linux market share is growing year over year)

Codeberg instead of GitHub

VSCodium instead of VSCode

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by fragmede »

andrekandre wrote: post #96
MoreQARespect wrote: post #65

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I had a similar experience when I tried to search through reviews on amazon on the mobile website. The search box is gone and you're supposed to ask Rufus now.

> you're supposed to ask Rufus now completely off-topic but the names they give these dumb ai tools is so cringe

What would you call it?

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by fragmede »

pifgoe wrote: post #118
cgyvbunji wrote: post #116

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It's so bad I don't pair it at all and crank the volume all the way up and hope for the best.

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I can't imagine being so guileless that I'd create a account just to be shitty to people.

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by cindyllm »

10000truths wrote: post #103
cgyvbunji wrote: post #89

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I don't understand why anyone likes CarPlay. It has always seemed like people like it because it's better than nothing. It's just not a good system in an objective sense.

CarPlay and Android Auto aren't popular because they're good, per se. They're popular because they're good enough compared to the status quo ante, which was a sea of craptastic infotainment systems.

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Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by mark_l_watson »

Isamu wrote: post #23
mark_l_watson wrote: post #16

Good list! Removing as much as possible all AI and surveillance features, then carefully adding back the very few I want is the way I roll.

So the next iteration of surveillance features is to silently double down on users that turn off surveillance, because why would they do that unless they have something to hide? Better flag this user for extra super-secret surveillance and an immediate notification to authorities.

You make a reasonable argument. I will take my chances and more people I talk with now seem more concerned about privacy.

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by fragmede »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #121
dmd wrote: post #84

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I'm not sure I've seen anyone drive further than about 10 minutes away without Google Maps in the last 5 years. Or maybe everyone's misunderstanding your question?

I don't really understand why anyone would need sat nav for a ten minute drive.

Because the traffic isn't known to you but it is to Google. I could take two routes, one is faster depending on circumstances, and Google knows those circumstances.

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by jessamyn »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #133

The article missed a few obvious ones: LibreWolf and Waterfox rip out the AI features with prejudice. I don't know anyone who uses Zen or Helium (and haven't heard of the latter). If you have an iPhone 14 or older, you're safe from any AI features and have legacy Siri. LibreOffice instead of Office Linux instead of Windows (and I will not be entertaining "but end users won't do that" - because that is false. Linux ma…

Thanks for suggesting more mainstream alt-browsers. This article isn't about avoiding all AI everywhere so much as it is for people who want to turn the intrusive AI off in the things they are already using. There are even more things that could be in this including Windows registry editing, Linux, and all the great FOSS options but it's mostly not for that. I do have an older iPhone and I agree, it's sort of great to have legacy Siri.
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