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Incident with Github.com [resolved]
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Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#602Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's good you can isolate yourself from it. But there's plenty of cases. Open source maintainers being harassed or being demanded work through Github's issues. Or being feed AI slop to review endlessly. Or recruiters filtering resumes via Github activity graphs or repository stars. And obviously the side shady market of all of the above (e.g. buying/selling popularity). Like the parent comment, I can't wait for socia…
> Open source maintainers being harassed or being demanded work through Github's issues This isn't "psyops". Sure, it's a bad side of social interactions, but when you interact with other people, there's always some of this - in person as well as online. The lead-off argument here seems more like "interacting with society can be bad". I have no argument that selling popularity is bad and filtering by stars is stupid,…
> The lead-off argument here seems more like "interacting with society can be bad".
The argument is that there's no need for that much social interaction to produce quality code, quite the contrary, the more social interaction, the more focus is lost.
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but there's a reason why the Linux Kernel communication is still done through acerbic email threads.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#603Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you suggest a viable infrastructure alternative? My wishlist: free for open source and paid for closed source, able to do simple projects that are handwritten and also complex projects including AI LLM code that needs CI/CD/auditing, and hosting in the UK or EU. Aside, I donate money to Codeberg because I think Codeberg is a wonderful service with strong commitment to free open source, and because I host some lar…
I feel like any service that is free for open source is going to struggle if it gets significant adoption and becomes a default target for hosting LLM generated code. If even MS/GitHub cannot scale to the current demand, what hope do smaller and less well-funded alternatives have?
Rate limiting the infrastructure-hammering actions (mainly CI stuff) would be a reasonable method to handle this.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#604Help encourage alternatives by trying Gitlab.com or Codeberg.org or Tangled.org or others, and please star some projects there to help motivate more options. Self-promo links below if you would like to star a few of mine good for developers. https://gitlab.com/architecture-decision-record https://gitlab.com/ways-of-working https://gitlab.com/coordinated-vulnerability-disclosure
Rather use BitBucket or GitLab really, both GitLab and BitBucket have been around nearly as long as GitHub? Apparently BitBucket and GitHub are both 2008, and GitLab is 2011. The others you mentioned could go on a whim.
I don't know BitBucket, but GitLab is felt extremely bloated and slow - Codeberg is much leaner and faster
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#605This is starting to feel like Twitter. For a variety of reasons, we had a centralized place where everyone of a particular set of persuasions could connect, and this had outsize benefits for the community as a whole. That place is becoming untenable, and with the loss of goodwill and stability, the community’s started to dissipate. But there isn’t one obvious transition candidate, so the diaspora is finding itself sp…
It's becoming the Microsoft Teams of Git hosting providers.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
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#607Unable to log in to GitHub at this time. "No server is currently available to service your request..."
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#608Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://tangled.org would love to have you :) We're hosted in the EU, and are free for open source, forever. Tangled is also designed to be federated from ground up, so you get to own your infra & data while still participating in an open network.
Thanks! Added. What is your donate link? https://tangled.org/joelparkerhenderson.com/architecture-dec... https://tangled.org/joelparkerhenderson.com/ways-of-working https://tangled.org/joelparkerhenderson.com/coordinated-vuln...
Tangled is a VC-funded Oy (Finnish limited liability corporation, €3.8M seed a few months ago). I searched and couldn't find a published donation route, which makes sense given it's VC-funded.
To Tangled -- it's great that the core code is MIT licensed and anyone could stand up a competing appview (the credible-exit property of atproto).
Do Tangled Labs Oy's articles include a purpose clause instead of the default profit-only purpose[0]? Or is something similar on the roadmap?
[0] OYL 1:5 reads The purpose of a company is to generate profits for the shareholders, unless otherwise provided in the Articles of Association.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#609Never quite understood why large enterprises use github as core infrastructure. Sure use it to collab externally, use it if you can't justify running your own infrastructure, but why are large companies choosing to place code externally - which is one secret leak away from compromise?
The larger the company, the more likely that it's enmeshed with Microsoft in some of its parts. Microsoft is relentless in expanding its footprint with vendor lock-in and cross-sells until it replaces all competitors.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#610Help encourage alternatives by trying Gitlab.com or Codeberg.org or Tangled.org or others, and please star some projects there to help motivate more options. Self-promo links below if you would like to star a few of mine good for developers. https://gitlab.com/architecture-decision-record https://gitlab.com/ways-of-working https://gitlab.com/coordinated-vulnerability-disclosure
GitHub being ruined after the AI hype is a shallow take imo. The root problem isn't AI, Microsoft, or Azure; It's why people keep _trusting_ centralized infra. GitLab and Codeberg can absolutely become trash, each in their own way. The solution isn't just "migrating off of GitHub"; it's "migrating to a platform that is unownable by design, not only hope". And there are no good enough decentralized alternatives to Git…
Azure was arguably as garbage four years ago as it is today, the only thing that's changed in the past few years is MS mandated vibe coding, and suddenly Github has an outage every week? A ridiculous coincidence if it's not causal.