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Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by xedrac »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #27
RivieraKid wrote: post #15

I'm not that young anymore but when I hear Dario Amodei speak and gesticulate enthusiastically about how AI will soon make my job redundant, from a positio of someone who can retire now and who benefits from AI possibly replacing workers, it's very hard to like him.

Lets suppose everyone in the world miraculously loses their jobs to AI, who is paying for it? How? What are they selling? What stops the rest of humanity from turning data centers into a pile of ash? These people are so disconnected from reality.

I think they believe that AI will account for nearly all production, and jobs will no longer be necessary. At the very least, it's going to be tumultuous.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by JKCalhoun »

RivieraKid wrote: post #15

I'm not that young anymore but when I hear Dario Amodei speak and gesticulate enthusiastically about how AI will soon make my job redundant, from a positio of someone who can retire now and who benefits from AI possibly replacing workers, it's very hard to like him.

Is it the replacing workers thing so much or are young people just fucking sick of tech (and Silicon Valley in general) and AI is the latest whipping boy?

(Or maybe I'm just projecting.)

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by [deleted] »

kj4211cash wrote: post #49

I wonder how much of this is caused by income inequality. There are some young people I talk to that are genuinely worried about whether AI will take all the jobs. But there are a lot more that rightfully realize that they probably can't afford the middle class life their parents had and are annoyed at all the money AI is hoovering up and how rich these CEOs are. And that's the surface level. There's all sorts of res…

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Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by pibaker »

piloto_ciego wrote: post #70
defrost wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the no job part that troubles them, it's the question of where basic levels of food, clothing, shelter are going to come from, and the means to have objects of desire and the freedom to travel. Maybe you can't see that, but for a good many people hovering about the knife edge of just getting by such things are a pressing concern. Perhaps in future Halcyon days when all needs are met joy will be had by all ..…

Well, those are political decisions, and WE (not the nebulous "they") are who make those decisions. Like, I lost literally everything when I got sick. I think I probably understand "hovering about the knife edge" better than most people on this site. I lost my career, my sense of identity, and more than most can imagine. When you have faced explaining to your son how you might not make it through treatment and how he…

>read marx

>dreams of man made famine and desolation

Do you happen to wear glasses, mister Ciego? Me and my marx reading boys have some bourgeois liquidation quotas to fill.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by ahmetson »

xedrac wrote: post #91
giancarlostoro wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lets suppose everyone in the world miraculously loses their jobs to AI, who is paying for it? How? What are they selling? What stops the rest of humanity from turning data centers into a pile of ash? These people are so disconnected from reality.

I think they believe that AI will account for nearly all production, and jobs will no longer be necessary. At the very least, it's going to be tumultuous.

I think they know it’s not soon as they promise so they lie openly.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by preg_match »

quantified wrote: post #75
DANmode wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More free time for proper rest, hobby, and well-considered expression? I’m not saying Anthropic and OpenAI are going to be the ones to deliver it - but…you really don’t see the ubiquitous need for these?

Ain't going to happen and you know it.

It might happen but it certainly won’t be instant. It will take decades, and in the meantime what happens? Are those people just unbelievably fucked? Our current economic systems literally cannot handle this. The underpinning of all of capitalism is that you work, and you consume.

If even one of those assumptions is no longer true, nothing works. And when I mean nothing, I mean nothing. Money doesn’t work, rent doesn’t work, debt doesn’t work, labor doesn’t work, production doesn’t work. It would have to be a quick de-industrialization unless we have a plan. No more monkey-patching with social programs, this is an entire paradigm shift.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by preg_match »

mitchdoogle wrote: post #54
59nadir wrote: post #7

How oblivious are people to the world that they think this is somehow strange or hard to believe? Why would they like any of the tech CEOs, or CEOs in general? It's hard to see why basically anyone would at this point.

Because the products these companies produce are extremely popular, and people benefit from them.

They’re useful right now, under the explicit pretense that their goal is to literally ruin your life. No more work, I guess you die now, bye bye.

Maybe that won’t happen, but these CEOs not only tell us it will happen, they have the gall to brag about it. Of course that’s unpopular.

“Yeah I plan to basically torture most of the world’s population until they eventually die. Except the elite few who hold the AI means of production. Wait, why are you booing?”

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by shibapuppie »

bbor wrote: post #55
JustResign wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A CEO of a large AI company is hardly just a "messenger" here. Come on now.

I… yes, he is. He wasn’t born when this was put in motion by Turing in 1950, and he quit OpenAI to try to stick to their original mission, which was exclusively and ambitiously to prevent what most (who cared to look at it) assumed was inevitable. AI isn’t a new iPhone moment, it’s a fire moment. Dario Amodei didn’t bring it into existence, physics did — we’re just slowly working out the cognitive science for the fir…

Absolutely! I mean, they didn't start the fire so why are we mad at them for fueling the fire?? It's not their fault!!

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by gitaarik »

graemep wrote: post #87
mitchdoogle wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the products these companies produce are extremely popular, and people benefit from them.

They are widely used but not liked and net benefits are arguable.

They are liked by many though. And net benefits are arguable

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Post by gitaarik »

preg_match wrote: post #97
mitchdoogle wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the products these companies produce are extremely popular, and people benefit from them.

They’re useful right now , under the explicit pretense that their goal is to literally ruin your life. No more work, I guess you die now, bye bye. Maybe that won’t happen, but these CEOs not only tell us it will happen, they have the gall to brag about it. Of course that’s unpopular. “Yeah I plan to basically torture most of the world’s population until they eventually die. Except the elite few who hold the AI means…

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