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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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> Anyone knows that any company that gives you something for free will eventually want something from you Firefox is also free.

Mozilla is not a company though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Also known as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeering

Selling a good or service for money is racketeering, in your opinion?

No, but this part is

"it maxed my CPU at 100% for so long that I paused and had to figure out what was spiking my computer"

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #425

There's a mystery here. People hate ads. Firefox is the only major browser (save Brave?) that properly blocks ads. Yet people don't use Firefox (indeed its popularity is in free-fall). Why? Is it because they don't know about it? Or they won't go to the trouble of using any browser that isn't the one provided by default by the OS? I'm not sure. I just don't get it.

to me it seems that "normal" (non-tech) people just dont bother even looking for better options. they dont know and dont care.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #721

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation

... and so what? Your response was that they're not a company - Mozilla Corporation IS a private, for-profit company and one of their responsibilities is managing Firefox. Similar structure is used by OpenAI, so I guess OpenAI is also not a company?

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #710

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What would said consumers do about it? Nothing, that's what. No matter how much you think they should do, they won't. Just like your phone isn't a Linux phone.

I guarantee you if steam was blocked on windows, lots of gamers would do something about it. They are generally technically adept people, and if their multi-hundred pound library of games suddenly got taken away from them on windows, many would buy a steam deck or dual boot linux to get that back.

Yeah they'd probably run the same .exe files from their steam folders. And to buy new games, they'd go where games are sold. Which would be the Microsoft store. Which would be extremely beneficial for Microsoft.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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so I can click with cursor over element I don't want to remove it same way as in uBlock Origin? because without UI manually editing the filter is not an element picker. I'm unable to find any screenshot of ubol, all I found is some switch between protection levels and all answers I've found in Google to this question say there is no element picker and not going to install it since all my browser still support uBO

> all answers I've found in Google to this question say there is no element picker Because Google feeds on comments like yours to answer your question about whether there is an element picker, it's bound to be wrong. You can create your own custom filters using an element picker, and you can manually edit them. See https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Quick-guide >.

Thanks for your great work, I didn't notice who I am talking to.

Though it doesn't help even on official extension page in both Chrome web store and Microsoft edge add-ons store there is no clear screenshot showing this (tools dashboard after clicking More button few times), if there was clear screenshot of actual advanced/"More" UI with Element zapper/picker, users like me wouldn't have such stupid questions/assumptions and it would be clear from get go.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #725

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation

... and so what? Your response was that they're not a company - Mozilla Corporation IS a private, for-profit company and one of their responsibilities is managing Firefox. Similar structure is used by OpenAI, so I guess OpenAI is also not a company?

So the top-most entity is the Mozilla Foundation, they control and dictate what the subsidiary, also called Mozilla, can and cannot do. The OpenAI foundation cannot dictate what OpenAI Corp can and cannot do.

1. Mozilla isn't working in a capital intensive domain like Transformer Tech unlike OpenAI so there is no need to bend over demands this much.

2. Mozilla Corp is fully owned by Mozilla Foundation. OpenAI Corp was created by the OpenAI non profit to take external investment. The OpenAI non profit chose to give chunks of the OpenAI Corp to investors because it needed money. By selling stakes, they gave control of the company away. That's the difference.

3. OpenAI Corp answers to their stakeholders of which OpenAI foundation is only one and a minor stakeholder. Mozilla Corp answers to Mozilla Foundation only. That's the difference.

4. Presentation. The mozilla websites for the foundation and the subsidiary both use the org domain which is used by non profits, unlike openain's com use. Not a rule but a choice in presentation.

There is no comparison here.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #725

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... and so what? Your response was that they're not a company - Mozilla Corporation IS a private, for-profit company and one of their responsibilities is managing Firefox. Similar structure is used by OpenAI, so I guess OpenAI is also not a company?

So the top-most entity is the Mozilla Foundation, they control and dictate what the subsidiary, also called Mozilla, can and cannot do. The OpenAI foundation cannot dictate what OpenAI Corp can and cannot do. 1. Mozilla isn't working in a capital intensive domain like Transformer Tech unlike OpenAI so there is no need to bend over demands this much. 2. Mozilla Corp is fully owned by Mozilla Foundation. OpenAI Corp wa…

> OpenAI foundation cannot dictate what OpenAI Corp can and cannot do

It literally can (https://openai.com/our-structure/):

"Through special voting and governance rights held solely by the OpenAI Foundation, the OpenAI Foundation appoints all members of the board of directors of OpenAI Group and can replace directors at any time."

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> Mozilla Corp is fully owned by Mozilla Foundation

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2021/a...

~85% of Mozilla Corp's revenue comes from "search partnerships, subscriptions and advertising revenue" a.k.a. from Google - not from Mozilla's own products.

Mozilla Corp is in practice owned by Google.

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> Mozilla Corp answers to Mozilla Foundation only

In 2020 Mozilla laid off 250 employees[0] and then gave its CEO a $2.5 million USD pay increase[1]. Next year the CEO got another pay increase of $1.3 million USD[2].

They sure sound like a very nice Foundation to answer to - not very bothered by laying people off to give the CEO a pay increase or by losing market share for 10 years straight. Again, how are they different from other companies?

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/11/21363424/mozilla-layoffs-...

[1] https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2021/mozilla-fdn-990...

[2] https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2022/mozilla-fdn-990...

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> Edge people, Chrome people have been living in a fairytale

Someone's living in a fairytale, but I don't think it's Chrome users.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

#730
post #411

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They are opt-out, not opt-in. Big difference.

Opt-in. Someone else linked Brave's blog below. Read it. https://support.brave.app/hc/en-us/articles/38305898674957-H...

That only hides them, this disables them: https://rentry.co/browserconfigs
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