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Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by al_borland »

niutech wrote: post #689
al_borland wrote: post #639

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Wasn't Brave also founded on the back of a bunch of Web3 nonsense? That's always what kept me away. I'm actually surprised how many fans it has. There was something else they did that was shocking a couple years ago that made me glad I never used it. I went to wikipedia to jog my memory and found this... > In 2020, the company was found to be appending affiliate referral codes to the end of certain cryptocurrency exc…

Come on, it was 6 years ago, they have apologized since then. Firefox also had slip-ups like pop-up ads in 2023: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36073619 and ToS backlash: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43251762 . Give Brave another try!

At this point, I won’t use any Chromium based browser. I don’t want Google having full control of the future of the web. I don’t trust an advertising company with that power.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by DANmode »

eek2121 wrote: post #649
benatkin wrote: post #158

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I seem to remember TamperMonkey being on there but not ViolentMonkey, which I didn't agree with. However, I see neither of them on there. Both are available but not recommended. I wonder what is going on with that.

I suspect they no longer recommend either because either can download/execute scripts that Mozilla can't review, and the recommended extensions are reviewed, so they don't want to give users the wrong impression. I could be wrong, however.

I suspect it’s because it’s a pain to review that type of codebase, and they update it decently often.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by DANmode »

raffraffraff wrote: post #299
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #266

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I'd like a way to easily specify exactly what sites an extension can run on. There are extensions that I'd like to run on a subset - often just one or two sites - without giving them access do anything else. For that matter, a way to only activate an extension as a one-off when I click it and on no other tabs.

What about container specific permissions? If they implemented that it would be enough for me since I tend to split up my services by type (eg: shopping, banking, work, hack) so enabling an extensive on a specific set of containers would rock. Right now I think the only control we have is over private tabs/windows?

It took them over a decade to implement per-site isolation when other browsers had it, so don’t hold your breath.

Firefox isn’t the security-first choice.

They don’t pretend to be.

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Post by gorhill »

Markoff wrote: post #675
gorhill wrote: post #533

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uBO Lite does support "element picker", it's called "Create a custom filter" in popup panel.

so I can click with cursor over element I don't want to remove it same way as in uBlock Origin? because without UI manually editing the filter is not an element picker. I'm unable to find any screenshot of ubol, all I found is some switch between protection levels and all answers I've found in Google to this question say there is no element picker and not going to install it since all my browser still support uBO

> all answers I've found in Google to this question say there is no element picker

Because Google feeds on comments like yours to answer your question about whether there is an element picker, it's bound to be wrong.

You can create your own custom filters using an element picker, and you can manually edit them. See https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Quick-guide>.

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Post by achenet »

dabinat wrote: post #628
GeneralMaximus wrote: post #528

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In an ideal world, I would do exactly what you do. I don't WANT to block ads everywhere. I would love to support my favorite websites, and if watching a couple of ads is what it takes for them to stay online, then I don't really mind. Problem is, the ads I see when I disable my ad-blocker are uniformly terrible. Maybe this is because I'm in India, but I've never once seen an ad that wasn't outright disgusting, let al…

In theory site owners could be more selective about the ad networks they partner with. They bear a responsibility for a poor user experience, but many don’t care. I remember hearing about a lawsuit several years ago from several news organizations against an ad blocking company in which they described themselves as “ad companies that serve content” as opposed to “content companies that serve ads”.

To be fair to the news organizations, ads are very probably their primary source of revenue.

The "get a bunch of people looking at something interesting and then show them ads" business model has under-pinned newspapers, television, and now websites like Facebook, Reddit and Instagram.

The content was always kind of a side show, an excuse to serve you ads.

An example of an actual content company would be something like a movie studio, where the product is the actual movie, or a publishing house, where the product is an actual book.

Newspapers, television channels and YouTube, however, are making their money selling your attention to advertisers. So I think calling them "ad companies that serve content" is actually correct.

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Post by kazinator »

HappMacDonald wrote: post #363
kazinator wrote: post #332

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> banners that say "our website does not work with your browser, please switch to Chrome" Which in practice means "switch to using a Firefox extension which fakes looking like Chrome, and just to selected shitty sites like ours".

Which in practice would only be executed by the same crowd of people who would have opted-in to the security features on the first pass.

It would be executed by anyone who experiences a problem using a site with Firefox and asks for help about it in a forum, or chat AI, or finds a YT video about it, etc.

Non-technical people do follow recommendations like installing an extension to help with a problem. Especially if they see the same recommendation from multiple sources, and testimonials as to its efficacy.

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Post by armadyl »

what wrote: post #657
armadyl wrote: post #247

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uBlock Origin Lite is available on iOS/iPadOS for Safari however last time I checked it’s inferior to AdGuard/Wipr due to the API it uses (it only works in Safari but doesn’t provide ad blocking in the web views like the other two do). Otherwise it’s equivalent with the desktop version.

Okay. So there’s still nothing in manifest v2 that’s required for ad blocking?

Realistically with the new uBOL you’re just limited to the amount of rules you can use (I think it’s like 300k), no cosmetic filtering in default mode, no script injection in default mode, “limited dynamic filtering capabilities,” and needing more permissions up front.

In practice to me these are non-issues. With MV2 uBO you basically already grant it maximum permissions since it’s all or nothing with MV2. So giving full permissions with MV3 uBOL is no different. Which eliminates the cosmetic filtering and script injection limitations.

The rule limit can maybe be an issue, but I’ve never run into it unless I literally go hog wild and overboard on filter lists.

“Limited dynamic filtering capabilities” is more abstract to me at least and I can’t say what’s missing here.

In practice though ultimately I notice no difference between Lite and the original.

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Post by geekamongus »

thisislife2 wrote: post #594
geekamongus wrote: post #480

I wrote this article about Firefox 0.9 back in 2004, when they first implemented pop-up blocking, and have been using it every day since. https://www.digital-web.com/articles/firefox_09/

Wow, have you really been maintaining that site for 20+ years now?

It isn't my site. Mine is older :-D

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Post by dbspin »

somenameforme wrote: post #588
dbspin wrote: post #542

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I don't know what to tell you... It most definitely does not block youtube adverts for me and never had / did... Also, I found Ublock origin updates less reliable / frequent on Brave. Since switching zero issues.

Perhaps you were disabling their adblocker by trying to use ublock? In general there's no reason for additional plugins - they also have native custom filters, scriptlets, and so on.

No... As tech helper for various family and friends, I've been the one to clean install brave on a variety of machines. I typically demonstrate youtube before and after ublock for them, so they can see its effects. Never once not had adverts on a clean brave install. Not a representative sample obviously, but I've installed it for a fair few folks over the years.
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