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Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record Territory Ahead Winter

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Re: Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record Territory Ahead Winter

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Post by alt227 »

epolanski wrote: post #199
nozzlegear wrote: post #174

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What are fishing boats doing that could cause so much emissions in a single day?

You're dragging heavy nets on the sea floor releasing heavy amounts of carbon dioxide and destroying ecosystems that are net contributors to decarbonization like seaweed, seagrass, etc. A single boat with a single net can do insane damage in a single day. The problem is: when it comes to industrial food production, both fish and meat are insanely taxing on the environment. But people, we, *don't want to accept that h…

I'm glad you put the industrial qualifier on your food production comment. Eating meat is completely fine when doing it in moderation and buying only from local sustainable farms. However, industrial international scale meat production is a huge blight on the earth.

Re: Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record Territory Ahead Winter

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Post by alt227 »

sfn42 wrote: post #260
alt227 wrote: post #224

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> But this is something the world has never seen and I mean that literally Lets not forget there have been bigger and hotter events than this in local past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1877%E2%80%931878_El_Ni%C3%B1o... You may tie this in to climate change in general to prove your point, but this is a discussion about El Nino weather event and it is important to remember the current situation is not unprecedented.

The global average temperature was about 1.5C lower back then.

You miss the point, the warming of El Nino is relative.

El Nino warmed the earth more back then relative to average temperatures than it currently is now.

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Post by boredumb »

We've been on and off with water service because of it, we've got a bit of rain the last few days but the resovoirs in Puerto Rico were looking real skinny last week. Nothing humbles you like coming inside from doing yard work in the August Caribbean sunshine to realize your shower isn't running. RIP to my tomatos.

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Post by senordevnyc »

Noaidi wrote: post #246
timr wrote: post #242

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Oops. Links got truncated. Here: Figure 11-9: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/figures/chapter-11/figure... Figure 11-2: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/figures/chapter-11/figure... Chapter 11: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/chapter/chapter-11/

> What is happening, right now, is that winters are mostly getting warmer. Summers are getting hotter in certain places, but not at nearly the rate that cold days are decreasing -- and the evidence is weaker on a global scale. From the IPCC 6AR report, figure 11-9 shows it clearly: Thanks. Crazy that you think even these graphs, which do not include the last six years, are just fine. Climate change is not just about…

Crazy that you think even these graphs, which do not include the last six years, are just fine.

They said nothing of the kind. So your opening sentence immediately indicates you aren’t here to discuss this in good faith.

Re: Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record Territory Ahead Winter

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Post by senordevnyc »

timr wrote: post #88
lukeify wrote: post #87

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> This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand This is a topic concerning El Niño. You acknowledge that the downstream consequences of El Niño effects is amplified heatwaves, presumably. Heatwaves already kill people in many continents globally. It stands to reason _strong_ heatwaves will probably raise mortality further; which is _directly related_ to my original comment. I don't engage with people who aren't…

> I don't engage with people who aren't willing to be honest with what the data supports. OK, whatever. But what was I dishonest about? Cite the figures. Should be pretty easy. ...oh, and by the way: > You acknowledge that the downstream consequences of El Niño effects is amplified heatwaves, presumably. In some places , sure. In others (i.e. the western pacific), it leads to regional cooling. Let's at least get our…

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Post by oklahomasports »

lazide wrote: post #228
landl0rd wrote: post #219

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Because tail-risk events are very unlikely, and the average person does not have enough money to diversify widely enough to smooth out their effects. Big entities can launder high variance into low, and they can afford to do this by taking many more positions than an individual. Second, insurance companies directly cannot hold as much risk as they once did. Just like banks don't hold loan books like they once did, in…

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Insurance companies pay out over two trillion in claims each year

Re: Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record Territory Ahead Winter

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Post by ludicrousdispla »

boredumb wrote: post #283

We've been on and off with water service because of it, we've got a bit of rain the last few days but the resovoirs in Puerto Rico were looking real skinny last week. Nothing humbles you like coming inside from doing yard work in the August Caribbean sunshine to realize your shower isn't running. RIP to my tomatos.

Can you get water from your air conditioning unit, or is it just too dry there?

Re: Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record Territory Ahead Winter

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Post by boredumb »

ludicrousdispla wrote: post #287
boredumb wrote: post #283

We've been on and off with water service because of it, we've got a bit of rain the last few days but the resovoirs in Puerto Rico were looking real skinny last week. Nothing humbles you like coming inside from doing yard work in the August Caribbean sunshine to realize your shower isn't running. RIP to my tomatos.

Can you get water from your air conditioning unit, or is it just too dry there?

Yup! I have a line running from it to water one of our beds, it's been raining so it's about as muggy as it gets today.

Re: Super El Niño Keeps Growing as New Forecasts Reach Record Territory Ahead Winter

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Post by AlecSchueler »

culi wrote: post #77
izend wrote: post #18

The strongest El Niño ever caused a massive famine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1877%E2%80%931878_El_Ni%C3%B1o...

To be fair, we didn't have the World Food Programme in 1877 which lets us anticipate droughts distribution and crop failures months ahead of time. That being said, the existing energy crisis and fertilizer crisis can significantly compound the negative impacts of this El Niño even if we are able to anticipate it.

When did the WFP eradicate famine?
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