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Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by WickyNilliams »

bambax wrote: post #425

There's a mystery here. People hate ads. Firefox is the only major browser (save Brave?) that properly blocks ads. Yet people don't use Firefox (indeed its popularity is in free-fall). Why? Is it because they don't know about it? Or they won't go to the trouble of using any browser that isn't the one provided by default by the OS? I'm not sure. I just don't get it.

It's a damn shame. Using FF on android with a fully fledged uBlock Origin is so good. Makes the web usable. I don't know how people stand browsing with chrome.

I recommend FF whenever the topic of ads comes up and hope that word of mouth with eventually do its thing. Most people don't know about it in my experience.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by xdavidliu »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #246
inigyou wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... But they do that. The declaration is written in a language called JavaScript.

Javascript is not a declarative language.

There are at least two uses of "declare": one the colloquial english usage that has been around for at least hundreds of years, which roughly means "announce" or "state". The other use of declare is the much more specific programming language version which you're referring to.

Here's what the comment you're responding to said:

> They should have to declare to the browser what it is they want done instead.

Arguably it's pretty clear they meant declare in the first sense.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by WickyNilliams »

bardan wrote: post #277
matgessel wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a Android tablet...I can't recommend it. YT has gotten pretty toxic with the dark patterns. There are the usual interstitial ads, but after you skip and go full screen there's another ad widget in the lower left of the video. You have carefully navigate a popup menu to dismiss it without triggering an ad popup. If you pause or double-tap to -10s the video it restores down and shows an ad on the right side. The…

NewPipe is a YT frontend that blocks ads, allows downloading, can run in the background and is generally great. It's a killer app for Android in my opinion. https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe

Second recommendation for newpipe. Fantastic app. I love that you can still have "subscriptions", playlists etc without an account. Set it as the default app for youtube.com and related domains and you'll never look back

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by WickyNilliams »

vovavili wrote: post #5

Thank God for the Brave browser. For those disliking their built-in adblocker, there is a Manifest v2 opt-out specifically for uBlock if you need it.

Why use Brave rather than FF? Sincere question. Lots of tech minded people choose it, when FF seems like an ideal choice?

My reasoning for not using Brave: not only is it a wrapper around Chromium, but their crypto stuff and some dodgy affiliate injection in the past paints them as untrustworthy.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by lern_too_spel »

stack_framer wrote: post #276
lern_too_spel wrote: post #249

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But you see crypto ads in the browser's own settings.

Nope. I made the one-time payment for Brave Origin.

Meanwhile, Firefox derivatives are completely free with no ads and don't support the crypto grifts industry or removing rights from gay people.

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Post by picofarad »

jjav wrote: post #357
Capricorn2481 wrote: post #326

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> Somehow, Mozilla's decisions are enough to never use FF, but Google's infinitely many horrible ones are acceptable for.... What reason? I think these people are real and predate AI. I think it comes down to a fundamental psychology in how the two browsers are marketed online. Firefox users would say "Firefox is better than Chrome." Chrome users would say "Chrome is good." Firefox is touted as a better browser on th…

> say they are opting into Chrome out of spite, which is 100x worse. That is what is frustrating, indeed. Firefox is not perfect. Nothing is perfect. There have been changes in Firefox over the years that I don't like. (I'm still hurting from it moving the tabs to the top, so annoying.) In a scale of 1 (100% user-hostile) to 10 (absolutely perfect user-centered browser), Firefox only scores a, let's say, eight. But c…

I concur that it is strange seeing the FF/Mozilla vs chrome arguments. Its almost as if some large percentage of users here relied on web ads for their income.

Weird!

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by lukan »

inigyou wrote: post #448
lukan wrote: post #334

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"RIP Charlie Kirk I hope many more debate nerds carry on his quest to engage young people with words, not fists." If this statement - a urge to engage in peaceful debate, not violence - makes you hate him, then I see the problem rather with you. I mean seriously, do you like civil war? Because this is what happens when people don't talk anymore about their disagreements, but physically fight.

The problem is that it's urging you to use words against people who are using fists. That is, it's urging you to self-sabotage and lose. It's quite possible the statement was written by a naive person who doesn't realise this. Lots of people don't realise this.

Hm. Charlie Kirk was not urging people to use fists as far as I know.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by einpoklum »

moebrowne wrote: post #366
einpoklum wrote: post #342

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It's not anonymized, because your communication with Mozilla has plenty of identifying information. Also, Mozilla officially un-committed to not using sell this and any other data it collects from you: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/firefox-deletes-...

That article is well over a year old. The current privacy FAQ right now explicitly states: > We never sell your personal data. Unlike other big tech companies that collect and profit off your personal information, we’re built with privacy as the default. We don’t know your age, gender, precise location, or other information Big Tech collects and profits from. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/faq/

Went to that FAQ again, and it contains false claims. They say:

> we’re built with privacy as the default.

Which is not the case, they are built with monitoring, calling-home and transmission of quite a bit of telemetry as the default.

> We don’t know your age, gender, precise location, or other information Big Tech collects and profits from.

They know my imprecise location by default, since they have their browser send my IP to them. I don't know whether the host of other information affords a statistical determination of age or gender; but the supposed "non-personal data" they collect, when correlated with data available to other companies like Alphabet, may well allow determining age and gender or even full personal identification.

> We never sell your personal data.

It doesn't say we never sell your data, period.

It doesn't say we never sell the results of processing your personal data.

It doesn't say we never _provide_ personal data collected from you (i.e. not through a sale). Nor could it, because the US government assumes the power to secretly obtain data about people from tech companies. The legal mechanism is in place (NSL)'s, and we know it has been in massive use, thanks to the Snowden leaks.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by picofarad »

inigyou wrote: post #130

Too bad Firefox isn't a major browser. And it shouldn't be. It's now full of ads for Mozilla VPN and stuff. We need the engine, but not the browser.

I've never seen an ad for Mozilla VPN, nor any other Mozilla product, in Firefox.

However I have seen billions of ads on google.com and YouTube.com, and search placement, and fraud.

But whatever. How's google pay? Pretty good?

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by scheme271 »

kazinator wrote: post #332
dralley wrote: post #99

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Websites already can barely be assed to care about supporting Firefox users, doing adblocking by default is a great way to get websites to start putting up banners that say "our website does not work with your browser, please switch to Chrome" en-masse. And Mozilla did develop anti-fingerprinting tech, but they can't enable it by default because it breaks lots of websites and when a website doesn't work they're not g…

> banners that say "our website does not work with your browser, please switch to Chrome" Which in practice means "switch to using a Firefox extension which fakes looking like Chrome, and just to selected shitty sites like ours".

In practice, it'd probably look like switching to chrome for the majority of users. A lot of tech saavy users would install a plugin but that's a lot of friction especially for random sites or even for an important site. Using chrome or edge would be easier for most users.
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