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Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by Gud »

I was shaking my head when my fellow developers, and some hackers, moved from Firefox to mostly Chrome. “It has better dev tools you see”, “it’s so much faster you see”, and a boatload of other excuses.

But what about the remonopolization of the web? I remember how much it SUCKED when internet explorer had 95% of the web thanks to Microsoft’s illegal practices. I saw the same behaviour from Google, the ad company and they haven’t event gotten a slap on the wrist. Fuck, people fucking loves Google, despite their turn to the dark side.

Well here we are, with the open web almost dead. It’s time to revive it. Start using alternatives again. Seek out and support people and organisations that are actively working to build the community web, not this corporate shit it’s morphed into.

End rant

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by armadyl »

Beijinger wrote: post #205
GeekyBear wrote: post #21

Firefox is also the only browser that vets uBlock's code on every update to make sure the developer hasn't inserted spyware or malware into the extension. They don't do it for every extension, but they do so for a wide selection of popular options. > Recommended extensions differ from other extensions that are regularly reviewed by Firefox staff in that they are curated extensions that meet the highest standards of s…

I recommend two more: 1. pass paywalls clean. 2. Social Fixer

Rather than introducing additional attack surface and privacy risks with yet another extension you can just use archive.is/archive.ph instead of Bypass Paywalls Clean.

Or, just pay for journalism since it’s not free to do.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by _ZeD_ »

Beijinger wrote: post #217
culi wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean Bypass Paywalls Clean? It's illegal and it's not even on the Firefox extension store. You have to download it from some Russian Github alternative and manually install it. I will say however, it works remarkably well. I haven't seen a paywall in years!

Why should it be illegal?

It's not. Op is wrong

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by matheusmoreira »

behringer wrote: post #194
matheusmoreira wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that Hate to be the one to defend Google here, but the reasons weren't that unreasonable. I want my browser to prevent random extensions from directly reading web page data. The declarative API idea is pretty good. It's just that uBlock Origin is so insanely useful, important and trusted, it should get full access to the entire browser regardless. Honestly, it should…

Of course the reasons weren't unreasonable, that's what made them great excuses for specifically blocking ublock origin.

They don't specifically block uBlock Origin though. I have no doubt they intended it to, and that's literally my only objection to Manifest V3: it's good but it hurts uBlock Origin therefore I don't accept it.

The right thing is to simply bypass all of that. The fact is uBlock Origin should be literallly built into the browser like the good old popup blockers once were.

If only we had a browser that was independent of ad money.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by matheusmoreira »

inigyou wrote: post #134
matheusmoreira wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The purpose of browser extensions is to build up an install base then sell out to some corporation that then promptly leverages that user base to exfiltrate data and monetize it. No thanks. They should have to declare to the browser what it is they want done instead.

... But they do that. The declaration is written in a language called JavaScript.

Javascript is not a declarative language.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by armadyl »

what wrote: post #199
socalgal2 wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google ... had to ... destroy the APIs so that they're useless. I see this repeated over and over and yet uBlock Origin Lite still seems to block almost all ads. I'm not saying I wouldn't prefer the non-lite version. But, given I basically still don't see ads it's kind of hard to argue Google destroyed the APIs so that they're useless

There’s also ad blockers for iOS safari, which I’m pretty sure doesn’t support ublock. There’s nothing in manifest v2 that’s required for ad blocking.

uBlock Origin Lite is available on iOS/iPadOS for Safari however last time I checked it’s inferior to AdGuard/Wipr due to the API it uses (it only works in Safari but doesn’t provide ad blocking in the web views like the other two do). Otherwise it’s equivalent with the desktop version.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by KingMob »

swed420 wrote: post #58
GeekyBear wrote: post #21

Firefox is also the only browser that vets uBlock's code on every update to make sure the developer hasn't inserted spyware or malware into the extension. They don't do it for every extension, but they do so for a wide selection of popular options. > Recommended extensions differ from other extensions that are regularly reviewed by Firefox staff in that they are curated extensions that meet the highest standards of s…

> Firefox is also the only browser that vets uBlock's code on every update to make sure the developer hasn't inserted spyware or malware into the extension. They could save themselves the trouble if Firefox simply baked in its own ad-blocking, but since Google basically owns them, we all know that will never happen. Ladybird browser is going to be awesome.

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by armadyl »

tomjen3 wrote: post #210
avaer wrote: post #32

What's funny is that extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do. Guess that was a bit too much freedom for Google to accept, so they had to make a store with a gate, and destroy the APIs so that they're useless. Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that and ram it through the pipeline despite everyone's objections, and the frog got boiled. Now we're bac…

There are good solid reasons why Manifest v3 is preferable for most extensions. The issue is that adblocking doesn't work with it, so an addition, or workaround should be made, but when Google has the amount of influence they have, that didn't happen. The upshut is that people hate ads and like free stuff, so there is now a good selling point for Firefox. Hell some of us switched to Firefox because it blocked popup a…

> The issue is that adblocking doesn't work with it

Except this is objectively not true…

uBlock Origin Lite is nearly as good as uBO and blocks nearly everything except for mostly Twitch ads.

Manifest v3 is a big security upgrade and effectively closes off the permanent RCE pathway that v2 allowed.

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