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Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Why does ad blocking always have to be relegated to an extension? Browsers build in so many things. Why do they all draw the line at a feature like ad blocking that every user wants?

Because they want a level of plausible deniability.

The way uBO works already provides a layer of plausible deniability. It's just a content blocker that loads filter lists maintained by other people.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #104

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Not GP, but sometimes I want my browser to do pretty random/niche things without that compromising all of my browsing data.

How can the browser tell the difference between a random thing you want and a random thing you don't want?

The permissions mechanism.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Bro, they have to declare there Firefox's policy. What the heck are you doing? Hallucinating claim after claim to support your weak defense. Just stop

"Declare" means the extension tells the browser what they want to filter and then the browser does it internally without ever allowing the extension to read and write private information. The argument has nothing at all to do with declaring permissions in a manifest.

LOL brother, it won't work the way you wish it to work.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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What's funny is that extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do. Guess that was a bit too much freedom for Google to accept, so they had to make a store with a gate, and destroy the APIs so that they're useless. Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that and ram it through the pipeline despite everyone's objections, and the frog got boiled. Now we're bac…

> Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that Hate to be the one to defend Google here, but the reasons weren't that unreasonable. I want my browser to prevent random extensions from directly reading web page data. The declarative API idea is pretty good. It's just that uBlock Origin is so insanely useful, important and trusted, it should get full access to the entire browser regardless. Honestly, it should…

This sounds like another one in those class of arguments that are essentially "We can't let users accidentally harm themselves on the devices they own." While I appreciate ergonomics and sensible defaults, ultimately I don't need you, Google or anyone else telling me I can't do something with my device because it's too dangerous to me. I mean I have a huge F U for anyone who tells me that quite frankly, just as I would if they said it about my car or my kitchen knife. I cleared the age of consent decades ago, I will use what I bought and I will accept responsibility for all of the outcomes. These little poindexter dictator nerds of IT who think they get to control everything about what I own can F right off. I applaud and will participate in any class action lawsuit against them and hope for the maximum penalties to be inflicted upon them.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #32

What's funny is that extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do. Guess that was a bit too much freedom for Google to accept, so they had to make a store with a gate, and destroy the APIs so that they're useless. Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that and ram it through the pipeline despite everyone's objections, and the frog got boiled. Now we're bac…

Browser extensions were also one of the biggest ways to distribute malware. The situation was genuinely horrific. Malware distributors would offer popular extension devs millions of dollars to buy the extension, then silently insert malware which gets auto deployed to millions of people.

But why blame the extensions instead of the auto-update feature? Wouldn't it be more effective to build external code review practices around the extension eco-system? For example, if you want to publish or update an extension, you first have to review someone's elses or something along those lines.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #32

What's funny is that extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do. Guess that was a bit too much freedom for Google to accept, so they had to make a store with a gate, and destroy the APIs so that they're useless. Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that and ram it through the pipeline despite everyone's objections, and the frog got boiled. Now we're bac…

> Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that Hate to be the one to defend Google here, but the reasons weren't that unreasonable. I want my browser to prevent random extensions from directly reading web page data. The declarative API idea is pretty good. It's just that uBlock Origin is so insanely useful, important and trusted, it should get full access to the entire browser regardless. Honestly, it should…

Mozilla relies 85% of income from Google for making default search engine Google.

They probably have strong implicit pressure not to.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Lots of browsers have built-in adblockers that use the same lists as uBlock Origin. Why it's important to support the extension? We have adblocking anyway.

But also, be Mozilla: decimate your own plugin ecosystem, kill half of plugins, force to rewrite the other 50%. But a few years later support this 1 extension, and people will remember that you're a good guy.

When they've adoped Chrome plugins, they've effectively gave up their shares of relevance to Chrome and now they're paying for it.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Brave is malware, I don't understand how anyone on HN can use it, baffles me every time. They've literally been caught MITMing web pages for their own financial gains.

In that case Firefox is also out. They have been caught auto installing random hidden extensions with full read/write access to all websites and blocking uBlock Origin from working on, for example, the Firefox extension site.

> have been caught auto installing random hidden extensions with full read/write access to all websites

Lol, they chose to ship parts of their browser as extensions, it's definitely now "random extensions".

> and blocking uBlock Origin from working on, for example, the Firefox extension site

Any other example? Bypassing an extension on their own website has absolutely no link to the browser itself being a malware, this is ridiculous.

I don't even use Firefox and I think Mozilla is a shit organization misusing its funds to pursue bad ventures lately, but even I think your claims are bullshit.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #292

Does it really make a huge difference to keep supporting Manifest Version 2? I've installed uBlock Origin Lite in my Edge browser and I don't see any ads there either.

Yes, huge difference - MV2 version has sophisticated scripts to not only block ads but prevent tracking. With the lite version you might not be seeing most ads but you are certainly being tracked more - MV3 version might "hide" ads but the MV2 version is blocking requests from every being made. All those stats you hear about improved battery and reduced bandwidth usage with an adblocker are only true for the MV2 vers…

Like I've said in earlier posts: tracking cannot be solved through technological means. It has to be solved through legislation.

The only thing you get is an arms race which Big Tech will always win because they have infinite budgets to keep the music playing.

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