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RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by kaoD »

marshray wrote: post #53
preisschild wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, modern software should make encrypted connections over something like HTTP3 or QUIC directly so true secure end to end connectivity works. This would make VPN software such as tailscale obsolete.

So I'm supposed to set up PKI before I can open a remote console connection? Please just make it work seamlessly with my existing SSH credentials. Like SFTP.

You don't need PKI.

Nothing prevents RustDesk from implementing TLS TOFU (see e.g. Gemini Protocol), which offers the same security guarantees as SSH TOFU.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by cryo32 »

magicalhippo wrote: post #97
cryo32 wrote: post #73

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To be completely fair it's 2007 Windows NT they haven't caught up with.

Windows NT4 (1998) had officially support for Terminal Services, so RDP[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Desktop_Protocol

Yeah but it wasn’t a compositor.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by maxlin »

Rustdesk has been a nice alternative/replacement for Anydesk, I use both 10+ times a day. Was having issues getting any remote desktop working yesterday with my Orange Pi 5, so good to see this very issue being solved. It does sound like Wayland has some design issues in how difficult this has been though. If a piece of software needs to do this, it shouldn't be so obnoxiously difficult, as I've heard this is a major PITA with OBS too.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by magicalhippo »

cryo32 wrote: post #122
magicalhippo wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows NT4 (1998) had officially support for Terminal Services, so RDP[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Desktop_Protocol

Yeah but it wasn’t a compositor.

That's kinda the point though, no? Wayland creators threw out the baby with the bath water, and thus it's taken ages to get fairly basic functionality, like what RustDesk announced here, working on the Linux Desktop.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by javier2 »

preisschild wrote: post #40
dj0k3r wrote: post #22

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Tailscale, or any encrypted mesh overlay is perfect for this. Infact I prefer it that way. Rustdesk can do what it does best at its core.

I disagree, modern software should make encrypted connections over something like HTTP3 or QUIC directly so true secure end to end connectivity works. This would make VPN software such as tailscale obsolete.

managing the certificates safely is too much of a hassle. especially if i dont want to accessible on public internet.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by cryo32 »

magicalhippo wrote: post #124
cryo32 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but it wasn’t a compositor.

That's kinda the point though, no? Wayland creators threw out the baby with the bath water, and thus it's taken ages to get fairly basic functionality, like what RustDesk announced here, working on the Linux Desktop.

Yes that. Also it's quite a mess, which makes stuff like this much harder than it should be.

I'm still using X11 on my Linux box and am quite happy with it.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by jcgl »

LoganDark wrote: post #116
preisschild wrote: post #86

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Ideally using ipv6 without NAT, but yeah hole punching or quic address discovery like iroh does works too

and how do you discover the ipv6 address? memorize it? many ISPs don't listen to informational documents listing all the problems with random dynamic prefixes.

Dynamic DNS is fine for many use-cases.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by stavros »

preisschild wrote: post #40
dj0k3r wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tailscale, or any encrypted mesh overlay is perfect for this. Infact I prefer it that way. Rustdesk can do what it does best at its core.

I disagree, modern software should make encrypted connections over something like HTTP3 or QUIC directly so true secure end to end connectivity works. This would make VPN software such as tailscale obsolete.

Doesn't Iroh do that? It would be great to go back to the peer to peer days, but with security.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by LoganDark »

jcgl wrote: post #127
LoganDark wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and how do you discover the ipv6 address? memorize it? many ISPs don't listen to informational documents listing all the problems with random dynamic prefixes.

Dynamic DNS is fine for many use-cases.

I suppose, but then everybody else knows your IP too, which nullifies one of the benefits of IPv6.
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