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Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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They're still up $25B for the year, so it's hard to feel bad for them :-) On a more serious note, Jane Street has hired some very impressive technical talent. I'd work for them, myself, if I didn't have to relocate to Chicago.

I don't think they even have a Chicago office, so it's good you didn't relocate there. They're based in New York. https://www.janestreet.com/culture/our-offices/

My mistake! I must have mixed up that location with another company I also admire.

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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Knock it off. These sorts of responses are uncalled for. Please review the HN Guidelines.

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“Be kind. Don’t be snarky.” is literally the first guideline in the “on comments” section.

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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They're still up $25B for the year, so it's hard to feel bad for them :-) On a more serious note, Jane Street has hired some very impressive technical talent. I'd work for them, myself, if I didn't have to relocate to Chicago.

> They're still up $25B for the year, so it's hard to feel bad for them :-)

No, even better: they're still up $40B for the year.

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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Original headline is "Jane Street suffers $15bn loss in July market ructions". HN guidelines do request use of original title and in this specific case the change of title is misleading by implying that situational awareness directly caused losses at JS. In the text it says "the US trading firm was wrongfooted during last month’s market ructions including the meltdown at AI-focused hedge fund Situational Awareness" s…

>by implying that situational awareness directly caused losses at JS.

Correlation is not causation.

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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They're still up $25B for the year, so it's hard to feel bad for them :-) On a more serious note, Jane Street has hired some very impressive technical talent. I'd work for them, myself, if I didn't have to relocate to Chicago.

Their nerd sniping is top notch. I almost accidentally applied for a job with them.

I regret not going through their application process 20 years ago, when I didn't know better. They did some kind of job fair thing and their starting salary was mindboggling, back when $600k/yr was "work there for 3 years and retire" kind of money.

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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The real headline is buried in the article: > Jane Street has generated more than $40bn in net trading revenues in the year to Friday, even accounting for the July loss, which exceeds its entire haul for 2025, according to one of the people familiar with the matter. This would make JS one of the most profitable trading firms of all time even with the loss.

Are they "trading" or "high-frequency-ripping-off-retail-investors"? It's easy to make paper billions with synthetic shares and infinite deadline extensions for settlement. I'm old and still remember when Ken Griffin was lauded a clever person before he got caught with his hands in the GME mayo jar..

Isn’t Ken Griffin still considered very clever? Citadel is one of the most successful hedge funds of the is era and has largely accelerated since 2020.

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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Not all sarcasm is insulting, my dude

“Be kind. Don’t be snarky.” is literally the first guideline in the “on comments” section.

There is a significant difference between sarcasm meant to insult, and sarcasm meant to be playful humor with a point. Common uses of sarcasm include witty or playful language, humorous banter, the expression of frustration at unfortunate events, self-deprecation, and as a coping mechanism for difficult situations. I see that you couldn't tell the difference in that situation, but trust me, that person was not insulting you. They included themselves in the joke.

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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They're still up $25B for the year, so it's hard to feel bad for them :-) On a more serious note, Jane Street has hired some very impressive technical talent. I'd work for them, myself, if I didn't have to relocate to Chicago.

I've applied to Jane Street dozens of times, interviewed twice, and have always been declined.

Obviously I'm not entitled to a job, so no hard feelings on that, but it's a little sad because I have always been a big functional programming nerd and it would be fun to work with Ocaml libraries. The fact that they pay really well is also appealing...

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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Are they "trading" or "high-frequency-ripping-off-retail-investors"? It's easy to make paper billions with synthetic shares and infinite deadline extensions for settlement. I'm old and still remember when Ken Griffin was lauded a clever person before he got caught with his hands in the GME mayo jar..

> Are they "trading" or "high-frequency-ripping-off-retail-investors"? HFT doesn't cost retail investors anything.

HFT raises pricing for retail traders by allowing front running of trades and makes the market less competitive overall for those without the infrastructure to do so. This isn’t even in question.

Re: Jane Street suffers $15B hit after meltdown at Situational Awareness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they "trading" or "high-frequency-ripping-off-retail-investors"? It's easy to make paper billions with synthetic shares and infinite deadline extensions for settlement. I'm old and still remember when Ken Griffin was lauded a clever person before he got caught with his hands in the GME mayo jar..

Isn’t Ken Griffin still considered very clever? Citadel is one of the most successful hedge funds of the is era and has largely accelerated since 2020.

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