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RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by elevation »

preisschild wrote: post #40
dj0k3r wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tailscale, or any encrypted mesh overlay is perfect for this. Infact I prefer it that way. Rustdesk can do what it does best at its core.

I disagree, modern software should make encrypted connections over something like HTTP3 or QUIC directly so true secure end to end connectivity works. This would make VPN software such as tailscale obsolete.

I'm also in favor of adding encrypted connections to RustDesk, not to replace tailscale, but as a part of this complete breakfast. Tailscale provides mutually authenticated, authorized L3 access. TLS can be configured to provide mutually authenticated L4 access. With a little OIDC/webauthn setup, both L3/L4 support device attestation, meaning there's no way to connect without e.g. a yubikey (or perhaps an enrolled TPM.)

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by marshray »

preisschild wrote: post #40
dj0k3r wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tailscale, or any encrypted mesh overlay is perfect for this. Infact I prefer it that way. Rustdesk can do what it does best at its core.

I disagree, modern software should make encrypted connections over something like HTTP3 or QUIC directly so true secure end to end connectivity works. This would make VPN software such as tailscale obsolete.

So I'm supposed to set up PKI before I can open a remote console connection?

Please just make it work seamlessly with my existing SSH credentials. Like SFTP.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by mr_mitm »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #49
bilkow wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A modern consumer GPU can crack "four random English words" in a day. Let's run the math: EFF's long wordlist[0] (the one used by Bitwarden's passphrase generator) has 7776 words, which is about 13 bits of entropy per word (log2(7776) = 12.92). A 4-word passphrase then has 51.7 bits of entropy, meaning there are 2^51.7 possible options for the passphrase, which is 3.66E15 possible options. For reference, a password…

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> most software in the world uses a basic hash like MD5 or SHA-256 rather than a key derivation function

For passwords? Where do you get that information?

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by jchw »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #12

How does this work on a technical level? Does it framebuffer grab the current session and inject input events?

Usually the way to be able to even get the login screen is to use DRM/KMS based capture and use uinput for device emulation. It doesn't strictly need root but it does need privileges a user wouldn't have, like access to the DRM card nodes and uinput device. Sunshine does it this way.

It entirely sidesteps the problem of X vs Wayland, although this does mean the unattended physical seat can be physically taken over while you are remote.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by diego_moita »

pizza234 wrote: post #24
throwaway27448 wrote: post #10

What is rustdesk and how is it distinct from vnc? Edit: i appreciate the explanations; thank you.

VNC and RustDesk are both remote desktop solutions, however, Rustdesk is considerably more performant than the VNC family, because the latter primarily sends framebuffer updates, while the former can use modern video codecs and temporal compression to encode screen changes much more efficiently.

I just have one word for you: TightVNC.

That's what made me uninstall RustDesk.

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