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Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by geogaddi » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:51 PM UTC

spenvo wrote: post #5

Linked-In has the spammiest email protocol out of any service I have ever used. Even after signing-in there is no one-click-to-unsubscribe button (they split it into about 12 scattered categories), and they create new categories periodically and opt you in to them. This is downright deceitful. Pro tip : change your email to one that you never use. It literally came down to doing this or deleting my Linked-in account-…

I agree completely with your description, of all the social services I have an account with, I find them to be the worst offender of emails and reminders.

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by csixty4 » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:52 PM UTC

massarog wrote: post #2

Companies that make me sign in to unsubscribe, stop doing this.

One of the ACM's email lists makes you log in to unsubscribe, but then I can't access that section of the site because my membership lapsed.

And this organization purports to represent the state of the art in this field.

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by gordian » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:53 PM UTC

Also, don't send me an email afterwards letting me know I just opted out. I know that already.

And why might it take 10 days to get me off your list? Do your electrons move slower than everyone else's? It's 2012!

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by lucb1e » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:53 PM UTC

Anyone who doesn't offer a one-click-unsubscribe gets in my blocklist. This means that to every newsletter you send, you get an automatic response that I didn't care enough. I don't even see you sent the message at all.

It's too bad that they're usually sent from no-reply, yes, but it's more satisfactory at least.

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by zalzane » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:54 PM UTC

Ironically enough I have more issues with getting spam text messages on my cell phone than spam email messages. It's a shame that either the CAN-SPAM act isn't enforced or doesn't apply to text messages. I'm on the national do not call list as well, and that has had seemingly no affect.

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by larrys » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:54 PM UTC

lt wrote: post #7

It's in violation of the CAN-SPAM Act You can’t charge a fee, require the recipient to give you any personally identifying information beyond an email address, or make the recipient take any step other than sending a reply email or visiting a single page on an Internet website as a condition for honoring an opt-out request. http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus61-can-spam-act-complia...

You can find practically nothing, except for some initial cases many years ago, where someone has been prosecuted for can-spam. I would imagine that like with any crime, you would have to really piss some people off to fall under this act.

(Smoking marijuana is a crime as well as is driving over the speed limit and a host of other things that generally don't land you in hot water even if they are known to the authorities.)

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by Ironlink » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:55 PM UTC

As a developer, I like to follow the rule of thumb that requests that have a persistent effect (such as changing your subscription options) should be HTTP POST rather than HTTP GET. This is in order to avoid mistakes generated by automated tools or systems which pre-fetch/cache/scan/analyze content. As such, my unsubscribe links lead to a page containing a one sentence summary of what you are about to do, and a form submit button.

This does not apply to the link passed in the SMTP header List-Unsubscribe, which needs to take direct action.

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by sehugg » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:55 PM UTC

spenvo wrote: post #5

Linked-In has the spammiest email protocol out of any service I have ever used. Even after signing-in there is no one-click-to-unsubscribe button (they split it into about 12 scattered categories), and they create new categories periodically and opt you in to them. This is downright deceitful. Pro tip : change your email to one that you never use. It literally came down to doing this or deleting my Linked-in account-…

Not only that, but they send you emails even after you have deleted your account.

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by eof » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:57 PM UTC

posted 691 days ago: but i said two clicks: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2139617

Re: No one-click unsubscribe? It's spam.

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Post by arbuge » Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 11:57 PM UTC

spenvo wrote: post #5

Linked-In has the spammiest email protocol out of any service I have ever used. Even after signing-in there is no one-click-to-unsubscribe button (they split it into about 12 scattered categories), and they create new categories periodically and opt you in to them. This is downright deceitful. Pro tip : change your email to one that you never use. It literally came down to doing this or deleting my Linked-in account-…

If you really want to kill ALL Linkedin messages choose the "Filter messages like these" option in Gmail. Then just enter "linkedin.com" in the From field. Done.