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GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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> I understand the argument of "people are not actively looking", but isn't the cost for such a scan getting lower by the week, and Anthropic's Project Glasswing is supposed to find them quite a while ago? You have to consider that having an LLM scan for vulnerabilities is hardly infallible. It is a search guided by heuristics and given a large enough codebase, it is unlikely to identify all vulnerabilities. Personal…

> [A]ll of them found some that the others hadn't discovered. Now, correctness issues aren't the same as vulnerabilities, but the same principle about using heuristics to find defects applies. This makes perfect sense, but that conflicts with the impression put forward by Anthropic and OpenAI (in particular) that they alone occupy 'frontier model' spots. Frontier models should large dominate their competitors on a ca…

Fable 5 is just over two months old.

For normal software it would be as you say, but LLM progress is so ridiculously fast that things go from "bleeding edge" to "eh, you'll do" in about that timeframe, and "eh, you'll do" to "why even bother with this old rubbish?" in the same again.

Or, from a different perspective, we can expect some new frontier model from Anthropic in a week or two, and from OpenAI in a month or so.

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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I’m using deepseek v4 flash to build a complex full stack production ai app and it’s a total beast.

I break out Claude when I hit some serious roadblocks, but that doesn’t seem to be happening much after the last deepseek flash release.

Deepseek prices just went up, but are still low.

I will def try GLM on my next project

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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OpenAI and Anthropic are both seeking trillion IPOs, while Chinese labs are pumping out open-weight models that are free for US providers to host and monetize. These Chinese models cost less of US SOTA models to run, even if they are less capable. Providers can just run them, offer cheap tokens, and pocket the margin. I just don't see how you justify a trillion valuation for US AI labs when the underlying models are…

This is going to be catastrophic. Whether AI works or is useful or not isn’t even the question anymore. It can fulfil every promise Sam Altman has been making and will still make no financial sense to justify these valuations.

The US will just do what they did with Chinese EVs: ban the superior technology to protect US companies.

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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Interesting... So Chinese models are not so bad ?

They've always been good enough for double digit less money. Always. Anyone thinking "Chinese models fake models built using dirty distillation scam" don't know what they're talking about. Distillation is just forcing the model to use an exam prep workbook for training instead of generic publicly available textbooks. The models themselves has to be smart enough for that to work. It's the exact same thing as Asian tig…

To carry on this analogy - do test prep workbooks make you meaningfully more competent in general, or is it benchmaxing? (Versus studying textbooks for a similar time, of course.)

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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There goes the last argument that anthropic had. I think beyond this point we're entering the 'dark scary world' that dario predicted which in fact result in things going on as usual. Really, the amount of fear mongering is astonishing.

Hopefully they will drop it all together and focus on making models that are useful for everyone like their original mission was instead of playing games with politics.

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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I bought $18 GLM official subscription yesterday (5.2, but new model version was already leaking on some docs), set it up with Claude Code harness... and I’ve bumped to $80 plan almost immediately. It’s the first model that agreed on a proper security research (red team scenario), executed it seamlessly, including 0-days in WP plugins, RCE, 6.8 kernel exploit adaptation, etc - while playing against another GLM agent…

How much usage do you get out of it per week? How many millions of tokens? Anthropic was stingy as hell with its Fable and cybersecurity nonsense, switched to OpenAI which is much better but still not enough. I'm tempted to switch again...

On $80 plan 200M tokens ~20% of weekly usage

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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What the person above is suggesting: * https://pi.dev/ * https://omp.sh/ (no personal opinions of either, links might be useful) I think that OpenCode is nice, their CLI version is enjoyable and their desktop/web version is okay : * https://opencode.ai/ I also quite like driving OpenCode through something like Kepler / Paseo and tools like that (with those I can still use my Anthropic Condition by Claude Code being t…

Last time I tried some of these, none of them had the "manual mode" that CC has, where it shows you change by change as diffs and you can edit them before accepting and moving on to the next change. I like that because if it's going off pattern I can spot it early on and guide it correctly, instead of having to review the whole completed diff at the end when it's too late. I should spend the weekend checking them out…

Both Pi and OpenCode let you customize them. You tell the AI you want "something like claude code manual mode", and they'll modify your configs to do the same thing, or build an extension for you

(however, it's much faster to use Plan Mode to build a plan of what it will do, and then execute the plan in Build Mode. you can also have the AI make a script that will be executed deterministically)

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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Anyone who knows anything realises banning things is a) impossible and b) your enemies will use them anyway, you are just depriving your own side of the advantages.

It's pretty easy for the US to functionally ban chinese models. They only have to target US firms like inference providers or the biggest users, and pretty much the whole domestic market will fall into line. They don't actually care about the final few %. Regardless of whether or not adversaries are using them, the US has by far the most compute available, and we've now hit the line where major providers are no longe…

But the real bad guys will be this final few %, which defeats the purpose. The 99% will be average user which will swing to cheapest AI or easiest to access.

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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An I the only one who was disappointed with GLM 5.2 after all the hype? It was thinking forever and sometime just stopped mid task.

That's mostly about 1) harness incompatibility with the GLM and/or 2) Bad implementation of hosting the model by your upstream vendor

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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I’m in the Claude code harness for everything boat too. What are the alternatives?

What the person above is suggesting: * https://pi.dev/ * https://omp.sh/ (no personal opinions of either, links might be useful) I think that OpenCode is nice, their CLI version is enjoyable and their desktop/web version is okay : * https://opencode.ai/ I also quite like driving OpenCode through something like Kepler / Paseo and tools like that (with those I can still use my Anthropic Condition by Claude Code being t…

No one in their right mind would install software using `curl | bash`
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