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Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by maipen »

pentagrama wrote: post #284

Interesting to see the Linux version released. On Windows, though, my experience with the new ChatGPT app since Codex was folded into it hasn't been great. I'm a Codex user, and when it was still a standalone app it worked really well for me. Since it became part of the new ChatGPT app, the app feels noticeably slower and, at least on my machine, is currently using around 1.27 GB of RAM [1]. The old ChatGPT app, whic…

Codex app was always unoptimized , but the competitores arent great either.

However it’s still a an agent app, it gets the job done and has great tooling.

Eventually the whole thing will probably be remade in a more performant way and be announced in a blog post as one shotted by gpt 6.x

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by goolz »

arminluschin wrote: post #11
pdhborges wrote: post #5

For someone who has not tried these desktop apps: what is the the advantage versus cli codex with some MPCs and multiple folders each one with their context files?

You get GUI niceties: a nice presentation of the output like inline markdown rendering including tables and images in a nice font. Input supports drag & drop, and I can actually navigate the input field the way I am used to (pointing and clicking, using keyboard shortcuts to jump to beginning of words / sentences). Not sure what the most modern CLIs support, but for me just the ergonomics of a GUI text field alone ar…

I guess to each their own, as I find the GUIs to be clunky and a net negative to my workflow. Admittedly, I should give them another chance, and see how they have matured lately.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by lxgr »

pentagrama wrote: post #284

Interesting to see the Linux version released. On Windows, though, my experience with the new ChatGPT app since Codex was folded into it hasn't been great. I'm a Codex user, and when it was still a standalone app it worked really well for me. Since it became part of the new ChatGPT app, the app feels noticeably slower and, at least on my machine, is currently using around 1.27 GB of RAM [1]. The old ChatGPT app, whic…

> The old ChatGPT app, which has now been renamed "ChatGPT Classic", feels much faster and is using around 478 MB under the same conditions.

That's definitely better, but all things considered, this is still an absurd amount of memory for a text chat client, even if you account things like hardware composited high-definition UI surfaces etc. into it.

The old app also had a habit of spinning at least one CPU core at 100% due to some runaway "shimmer" animation when an image wouldn't load or something...

> my experience with the new ChatGPT app since Codex was folded into it hasn't been great.

My main gripe beyond the performance issues is that OpenAI doesn't yet seem to know where they want to go with Codex and "ChatGPT Work", and is changing the paradigms daily, making it feel like there's no point in even trying to understand them.

It's really unclear to me which conversations (and lately scheduled tasks) are local and which are cloud-based.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by benji-york »

goolz wrote: post #324
arminluschin wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You get GUI niceties: a nice presentation of the output like inline markdown rendering including tables and images in a nice font. Input supports drag & drop, and I can actually navigate the input field the way I am used to (pointing and clicking, using keyboard shortcuts to jump to beginning of words / sentences). Not sure what the most modern CLIs support, but for me just the ergonomics of a GUI text field alone ar…

I guess to each their own, as I find the GUIs to be clunky and a net negative to my workflow. Admittedly, I should give them another chance, and see how they have matured lately.

I'm a long-time CLI/TUI lover, but the Codex GUI has converted me for at least this use case. It has most of the positives of a TUI plus some that would be hard in a TUI.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by lucideer »

paxys wrote: post #302
lucideer wrote: post #72

The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

It’s only remarkable if they actually took 6 months of engineering effort to build this. It’s more likely that it just never got prioritized.

Obviously if they took 6 months of active prioritized development to do this they're incompetent with or without ai.

What's remarkable is that it clearly wasn't a priority, which not only sends a clear message to Linux users, but also highlights that their platform choice is questionable if the leading selling point of said platform is something they don't see as an up front priority.

Though of course the third option is that it wasn't an explicit low priority but rather they're simply in disarray organisationally.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by wink »

freedomben wrote: post #248
OroPla wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft used to ship a Linux binary for Teams, but they stopped doing that. Guess the tech was lost.

I'm not usually one to defend Microsoft, but since Teams works great in a browser, I actually prefer it that way. My video conference doesn't need access to my whole filesystem and an opacity layer that prevents me from seeing what it does. I actually applaud them for supporting browsers as well as they do.

People don't really use push to talk in Teams (unlike Discord) and that's usually the dealbreaker because you can't have system wide keybinds.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by wink »

s_dev wrote: post #306
lucideer wrote: post #72

The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

Linux users have stronger preferences for the terminal than either Windows or macOS users. Even the same person will use the terminal more in Linux than the other two!

That's an unfair comparison because while I have nothing bad to say about terminals on macOS.. on Windows it's just still a shitty experience that doesn't solve even half of my problems.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by wink »

cloudie78 wrote: post #235
pjmlp wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see you never worked in enterprise consulting with either laptops or cloud VMs managed by customer IT, and where elevated actions require either IT tickets, or elevation tools with description fields why the operation is required, with development done with specific team accounts.

Quite on the contrary, in fact. Sectors involved in, in no particular order: government, financial, telecom, energy (gas and electric), manufacturing (large european conglomerates), healthcare, logistics In fact I was the one usually helping IT Teams put the torture devices and policies you’re subjected to in place lol. Banks would usually give us laptops with smart card readers and only allowed access to their VPN f…

Then you were simply lucky, because I see myself 90% agreeing with the person you replied to - but of course it can vary between orgs and countries.
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