FDA has failed. We’re going to need you start to look up Costco and Walmart or local organic cart body’s to regulate because the FDA can’t.
Surely has nothing to do with rolling back literal decades of safety regulations in 2 years.
FDA Admitted in Print That Nothing It Knows of Will Wash Cyclospora Off Lettuce
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Re: FDA Admitted in Print That Nothing It Knows of Will Wash Cyclospora Off Lettuce
#32TFA could really benefit from a concise thesis statement. It jumps around randomly and repeats facts that don't appear to be building a strong case for anything specific. Reading between the lines, it seems like the author believes the guidance document should include more on supply chain water testing, but I don't have enough context to know what reason they think it was not included or why they consider that reason…
The article is written by a robot. Ask another one to summarize or to change the style from the current meandering stew of LLMisms to something more concise.
I’m not sure the author has any options worth paying attention to since they didn’t care enough to write them down. Plus, I don’t particularly trust this article, since I have no domain expertise in this area and my bs detector doesn’t work in this circumstance.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's remember, though, not to fall into the trap of thinking that its current incompetence is intrinsic.
Playbook: anti-regulation entities capture government, strip down regulators, and when disaster ensues, point to regulators' inability to prevent or address issues as an argument to further scale down the watchdog's power.
its definitely the playbook: screw up the govt then make the point that cant do anything right
Re: FDA Admitted in Print That Nothing It Knows of Will Wash Cyclospora Off Lettuce
#34Apologies if this was in a prior thread but detection and washing are irrelevant when the parasite is dead. How Food Irradiation Works https://www.cdc.gov/radiation-health/food-irradiation/index.... https://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publication/?...
Irradiating enough to kill cyclospora oocysts would ruin the lettuce though.
It seems the studies that have been done indicate pretty high dosages required for noticeable damage to occur and that even then it can be minimized with packaging changes and care:
https://staging.billmarler.com/blog/pros-and-cons-of-commerc...
At the 1.0 kGy level required to effect Cyclospora, little difference was noticed in lettuce packaged in MAP instead of air, but some browning in air.
Re: FDA Admitted in Print That Nothing It Knows of Will Wash Cyclospora Off Lettuce
#35Apologies if this was in a prior thread but detection and washing are irrelevant when the parasite is dead. How Food Irradiation Works https://www.cdc.gov/radiation-health/food-irradiation/index.... https://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publication/?...
There is 'cold plasma':
Re: FDA Admitted in Print That Nothing It Knows of Will Wash Cyclospora Off Lettuce
#36Apologies if this was in a prior thread but detection and washing are irrelevant when the parasite is dead. How Food Irradiation Works https://www.cdc.gov/radiation-health/food-irradiation/index.... https://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publication/?...
Irradiating enough to kill cyclospora oocysts would ruin the lettuce though.
Food irradiation is a topic with depth. Spices are irradiated like crazy because there's no nutrition to nuke and they are insect fodder. Irradiation can be a continuum across food types. I'll bet a heavily nuked Pringle is indistinguishable from an unnuked Pringle except perhaps for improved phosphorescence.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wasn't fine for decades. Both democrats and republicans allowed regulatory capture to take place.
You can track food outbreaks by administration pretty easily. This isn’t hidden knowledge.
These bootlicking cowards all play the same game. 6 years ago, none of these dipshits had any complaints about the FDA besides - maybe - that it was a bit slow approving new medications.
Then Trump 2.0 comes along and puts the known fascist and all-around shit heal musk in charge of gutting the federal government. Now the FDA isn’t working, USAID is gone, FEMA is a disaster, we’re critically short of air traffic controllers, and on and on it goes but anytime someone points out the obvious damage that the republicans have done the legion of drooling racists comes around to babble about how actually the FDA was broken the whole time. It’s insulting to anyone with a memory that isn’t wholly owned by Rupert Murdoch.
Re: FDA Admitted in Print That Nothing It Knows of Will Wash Cyclospora Off Lettuce
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article appears to be trying to smuggle in a notion of “the organism cannot be killed in water” via a path of indirectly repeating the reference that the water cannot kill the organism in the food; because the chemical treatment of the water is therefore insufficient to avoid cross contamination, testing becomes an absolute requirement. I get real suspicious of ulterior motives whenever such equivocation makes a…
Sanitizing water won't kill it? Not chlorination? What is cyclospora, anyway? It is not a bacterium or thing that I am familiar with. It is parasitic; it is a eukaryote; beyond those two definitions, it might as well be an alien from Venus because I'm not familiar. How does it get into produce ? Does it seep inside from irrigation? Fall on it in droplets? Grow inside the vegetables, waiting for human host? Where does…
> What is cyclospora, anyway? It is not a bacterium or thing that I am familiar with. It is parasitic; it is a eukaryote; beyond those two definitions, it might as well be an alien from Venus because I'm not familiar.
Eukariotes include animals, plants, fungus, and the protists. As a sibling comment say, protists is a catch all bag for all the other eukaryotes, that include most algae, amebas and a looooooooooooooooooot of different unicelular organism.
In particular the closest relative of cyclospora that I can recognize is the one that causes toxoplasmosis, and more far away the one that cause malaria. But it's a very big and diverse bag, so I'd not extract too many conclusion from that. It also includes a lot of nice behaved things, not everyone is a nasty parasite there, just some of the most famous.
> Sanitizing water won't kill it? Not chlorination?
I guess the chlorine in tap water is not enough, but pure concentrated bleach would kill it. But I'm not sure and it also ruin your salad. Also, I guess enough heat would kill it too, and it also ruin your salad. https://xkcd.com/1217/