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uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by micw »

snickerer wrote: post #549

Ads are an attack, aimed at your brain. They try to inject malware into your thinking, manipulating your worldview and your actions. That's horrible, worse than attacking a machine with malware, damaging persons and societies. Decades of ad propaganda have tricked people into seeing them as something 'normal'. But we shouldn't accept being under constant attack of brain worms. I propose a sane rule for all humans: if…

> if you see an ad somewhere [...] close the tab immediately and never return to that site

I would even extend this: if you are bugged by an ad, avoid the product, the vendor and tell everyone why you do so. Also tell it to the vendor, why you avoid their product (aggressive, non blockable ads at facebook for example).

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by brikym »

snickerer wrote: post #549

Ads are an attack, aimed at your brain. They try to inject malware into your thinking, manipulating your worldview and your actions. That's horrible, worse than attacking a machine with malware, damaging persons and societies. Decades of ad propaganda have tricked people into seeing them as something 'normal'. But we shouldn't accept being under constant attack of brain worms. I propose a sane rule for all humans: if…

This. At least you can switch them off on the web but now big-ad is putting bright flickering digital billboards in sight of every public place. Politicians won't do a thing because they're some of the biggest customers. Obey.

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by tripzilch »

bkaae wrote: post #555
snickerer wrote: post #549

Ads are an attack, aimed at your brain. They try to inject malware into your thinking, manipulating your worldview and your actions. That's horrible, worse than attacking a machine with malware, damaging persons and societies. Decades of ad propaganda have tricked people into seeing them as something 'normal'. But we shouldn't accept being under constant attack of brain worms. I propose a sane rule for all humans: if…

We should also normalize paying for content at the same time then.

You must have grown up on the Internet during the

> Decades of ad propaganda have tricked people into seeing them as something 'normal'.

also wait, we're talking about a US company, should we be paying a US company, for "content"? Is all "content" produced by these US megacorps, I don't think so, they're purely extractive

what are you gonna do, make more Marvel movies? lol

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by deanc »

jimrandomh wrote: post #282

Eventually, this arms race ends with a computer vision model that looks at the screen, classifies visual elements as ads, and draws a rectangle over anything that looks like an ad. I am significantly less tolerant of ads than average people seem to be. (I think average people are making a horrible mistake about this, and are badly cognitively damaged by ads in ways they don't realize). If my choices are to look at ad…

Nice idea, but unless you sandbox the page until you've done that, you risk loading the malware also, as well as the tracking the ads ship.

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by tripzilch »

crummy wrote: post #568
Parae wrote: post #565

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think Meta would spy less on us and show us less ads if we payed to access their services ? They would just keep doing what they've been doing for ages and they would have even more money to keep their enshitification going. We are already paying too much for all the services with subscription. Like Spotify, Netflix and others...

Plenty of other services (like Spotify) stop showing you ads if you pay them enough money.

I don't think that actually counts as "paying for content". The musicians make the "content", and Spotify pays all but the biggest ones a pittance.

That's more like "paying to not see ads" than "paying for content".

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by grumbelbart2 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #536
plutokras wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Eventually, this arms race ends with a computer vision model that looks at the screen, classifies visual elements as ads, and draws a rectangle over anything that looks like an ad. That would be a killer feature for AR glasses. Imagine no billboards, no political posters, no neon storefront clutter.

> That would be a killer feature for AR glasses. Imagine no billboards, no political posters, no neon storefront clutter. ...people invisible to you by wrapping themselves in a banner-ad cape... (Actual plot device in a science fiction book.)

Oh, which book if you don't mind sharing?

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by tripzilch »

skybrian wrote: post #585
snickerer wrote: post #549

Ads are an attack, aimed at your brain. They try to inject malware into your thinking, manipulating your worldview and your actions. That's horrible, worse than attacking a machine with malware, damaging persons and societies. Decades of ad propaganda have tricked people into seeing them as something 'normal'. But we shouldn't accept being under constant attack of brain worms. I propose a sane rule for all humans: if…

Skill issue? Some people are clearly more vulnerable than others. You can occasionally get useful information from ads.

> You can occasionally get useful information from ads.

And flies eat horse shit because they occasionally get nutrients from it

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by dolphenstein »

bkaae wrote: post #555
snickerer wrote: post #549

Ads are an attack, aimed at your brain. They try to inject malware into your thinking, manipulating your worldview and your actions. That's horrible, worse than attacking a machine with malware, damaging persons and societies. Decades of ad propaganda have tricked people into seeing them as something 'normal'. But we shouldn't accept being under constant attack of brain worms. I propose a sane rule for all humans: if…

We should also normalize paying for content at the same time then.

There is a large cohort of people who will complain about ads but also don't want to pay. My little microSaaS is monetised with ads but I offer option to pay if you don't like the ads. Still get plenty of complaints about the ads.
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