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(Not the original commenter.) You can rack up quite a lot of tokens if you ask it to try out a lot of things, eg for performance investigations and trying out optimisation ideas.
is there a standard pattern for this? Like spawn an agent for each technique to try?
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
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Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
#342https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/ Competitive with opus 4.8 but weaker than sol or fable. About 20x cheaper.
Per token. You need to look at pricing per task.
Wonder how much more they'll squeeze out.
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
(Not the original commenter.) You can rack up quite a lot of tokens if you ask it to try out a lot of things, eg for performance investigations and trying out optimisation ideas.
is there a standard pattern for this? Like spawn an agent for each technique to try?
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
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nobody is saying. just "more". but openrouter says they don't expect the price to change other than through the deepseek api, other people hosting the same model will keep charging the same price.
It's just a flat 1.5x during peak hours, they emailed this to everyone 2 months ago. So still effectively limitless.
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
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If that wasn't impressive enough, it's actually ~60x cheaper if you take into account the typical cache-read/input/output split in agentic coding, and the deep discount for cache reads offered by DeepSeek. Opencode has some public data on the typical split [1]: For DeepSeek V4 Pro the typical split is 750 in, 290 out, 82k cached. Cost per request for V4 Pro: $0.000875 per request. Equivalent Opus cost (w/o taking int…
Can we have a conversation about subscription plans for a minute? I don't mean to hype up the US AI firms, but if a ChatGPT $200/m subscription can get you $16,000 in effective API costs, doesn't effectively every model get destroyed by the subsidized Claude/ChatGPT models? Both in price and intelligence.
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
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There's no new page for this model. Hackernews didn't allow the same link be posted twice.
Is this a new rule? I've seen some popular blog posts reposted here several times and still highly upvoted.
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
#348Why does this link to OpenRouter, which has no useful information on its own? Linking to the official API or the benchmarks would make more sense: - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/ - https://x.com/ChrisGPT/status/2087572834650407024/photo/1 (officially posted on WeChat, this is just one of many reposts)
Moreover, OpenRouter is NOT Open Source, fair source, source available, etc. It's a proprietary cloud service that got first place in the API aggregation distribution game. Link to DeepSeek!
For example if you want zero data retention and US -based hosting you can find that easily. You will not find that through Deepseek.
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
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Moreover, OpenRouter is NOT Open Source, fair source, source available, etc. It's a proprietary cloud service that got first place in the API aggregation distribution game. Link to DeepSeek!
TrustedRouter is hosted and full opensource!
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
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How do you define intelligence? I encounter that kind of sentiment all too often, and I have to assume we go by wildly different understanding of what that might entail.
If you read Opus 5's output, it is beyond the comprehension of virtually all engineers and developers. That is what I mean by intelligence. Math, science, and engineering are all contained in one model. We may be experts in one field. The model is an expert in everything that humans know.
You may want to re-evaluate and compare to the older models.