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Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by josefresco »

throw10920 wrote: post #357
dongttebayo wrote: post #307

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So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or? I’m confused by how your reply makes sense in the context of the parent comment. They weren’t stating a preference, they were linking to simple facts. Please do better.

> So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or? No, they're not. You're making up things and pretending that they said them. > Please do better. You're badly breaking the HN guidelines. Please review them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

As are you! Your comment was snarky and mean. Clear violations.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by ModernMech »

throwaway314155 wrote: post #360
ModernMech wrote: post #259

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Nothing really, when model usage goes up they do a credit. They did two last week.

Isn't this a _good_ thing??

Yeah, but it also makes budgeting hard. Normally you'd want to budget about 20% per day to use your whole week up in time. But since they reset usage sporadically, it becomes optimal to burn tokens as fast as possible to be as low as possible when they reset.

But since you don't know when resets are coming, it becomes kind of frustrating trying to game it out. One week they're resetting like crazy so you're trying to burn tokens as fast as possible. The next week they're not resetting at all so you have to adjust your workflow to be more conservative.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by asadotzler »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #351
michaelmrose wrote: post #325

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Man, I got ready to debunk this but just questioned my life choices instead. Why the fuck am I glued to my smartphone arguing with people posting shit like this instead of spending time with my daughters, creating new things or looking after my own body and soul. Michael, please copy your comment verbatim into any LLM with search capabilities and ask for primary sources that confirm or deny your statements, and break…

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by throw10920 »

josefresco wrote: post #361
throw10920 wrote: post #357

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> So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or? No, they're not. You're making up things and pretending that they said them. > Please do better. You're badly breaking the HN guidelines. Please review them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

As are you! Your comment was snarky and mean. Clear violations.

> As are you! Your comment was snarky and mean. Clear violations.

This is factually incorrect. I did not say anything "snarky" or "mean". I stated facts and pointed out that the poster was breaking the guidelines.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by asadotzler »

small_model wrote: post #62

SpaceXAI is the only frontier model company that had its own compute/date centres and soon chip making factory, I think they will pull ahead with cheaper tokens similar intelligence and better harness/tools. Grok build is 2-5x faster than Claude Code in my opinion.

>SpaceXAI is the only frontier model company that had its own compute/date centres and soon chip making factory,

Google would like a word. Also, Microsoft.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by fjfnfogk »

coder-3 wrote: post #334
soVeryTired wrote: post #310

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Out of interest, do Musk's politics impact your decision on whether or not to use Grok? I'd be interested to know where folks lie on the (Agree / Disagree) and (Use / Don't use) axes.

I disagree with Musk's politics but it does not impact my decision to use Grok. That's because being serious about aligning my capital to my values doesn't leave much in the way of eligible products or services. I consequently decide not to worry about this as a moral axis for my life.

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by popalchemist »

mlcrypto wrote: post #333
popalchemist wrote: post #329

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In some circles any AI usage puts you in the same bucket as the worst of the worst

Rather a nonsequitur when Elon did the Nazi salute twice put a literal fascist in office, and continues to attempt to in other democracies.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by rsanek »

johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #301
hgoel wrote: post #279

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>Until it doesn't... I don't get the point of this. We all seem to agree that these companies have almost no moat, if one stops being a good deal, you can switch to another. That doesn't invalidate the existence of a deal that is currently good.

No, it doesn't. My point was that chasing deals like this is just kicking the can down the road. You're going to have to reckon with harsh price increases sooner or later. So I have resolved to avoid that future-dreading and fixed it, basically.

Based on your own comments, it sounds like it wasn't really that hard to address the problem though right? Let's be real, it takes like 10 minutes to download OpenCode and point it to DeepSeek V4 Flash. That's an amazing 80-20.

Seems weird to me to not take advantage of the great deal the frontier labs are currently giving for subscription pricing when there's such an easy fallback in the worst case.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by chis »

jamesrcole wrote: post #323
UltraSane wrote: post #277

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Why do you give Elon any credibility? FEL is not proven at all and is much much riskier than using existing EUV machines. Plus if it breaks all your machines are down until you fix it.

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You really have to be able to hold both opinions at once about Elon. Yes, Tesla and Spacex are unbelievable companies and perhaps nobody else on earth could have made them happen - so he’s a genius. But also he repeatedly promised autopilot, Tesla Semis, the space data center idiocy, DOGE, one million robotaxis by 2020 - so he’s a shuckster.

My current headcanon is that he remains an incredible leader and make-things-happen-er, but also that you should just assume all his announcements are complete bs and ignore them.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by Rover222 »

theyliesoeasily wrote: post #315
Rover222 wrote: post #296

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Why? The timing was precise, the motion was precise, his facial features were grimaced with intense determination. I cannot fathom calling it anything else, and I see denying it as a kind of shibboleth for "we know but we are pretending it wasn't, wink wink nudge nudge". Either it was deliberate, or the richest man on earth is so incompetent that he accidentally made a motion exactly mimicking a seig heil while welco…

You can find pictures of AOC and Mamdani doing the exact same gesture. It’s obviously a common gesture when emoting to crowds. But you just want to believe the narrative. If you’re worried about Nazis, take a look at all the pro-Hamas people.
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