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Re: Grok Bot

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Post by dmix »

impulser_ wrote: post #146

The problem these model providers have now is there software is basically useless. Tell me one reason why I would use this at my company? I basically have to bet on Grok being the best models for this. Or I can use an open source version and use whatever model I want. You see this with coding agents, everyone used Claude Code and then realized holy shit this is expensive and now use open source agents and they can us…

> Tell me one reason why I would use this at my company?

I believe the selling point here is these run on their own VMs, so you don't need to set up your own harnesses, models, and security infrastructure to run agents.

Historically people tend to pay for single-click commercial solutions for complex technical set ups like that.

Re: Grok Bot

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Post by gverrilla »

whynotmaybe wrote: post #69
jesse_dot_id wrote: post #38

I think perhaps I won't trust anything that ever gets released by this company, likely in perpetuity.

It should be studied how we reached a point where we trust more a Chinese company, that's well know for being state controlled, vs an American company because it seems they could do worse. Still no idea what "worse" it could do because we've reached the threshold where plague and cholera are intertwined and every possible outcome seems abusive.

state controlled is much better than billionaire controlled. a lesson many haven't learned. yet.

Re: Grok Bot

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Post by throw-the-towel »

werdnapk wrote: post #160
redox99 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internet sucks. Yesterday, I had my agent search for openings for The Odyssey that fit my requirements and then book them. It was way better than manually looking at seat maps for 20 different showtimes and going through 10 steps just to buy the tickets.

So why didn't you just do it manually? Why use an agent in the first place?

Because doing it manually sucks? Every website shoves a different bunch of dark patterns in your face, everything is buggy, nobody ever thinks about UX.

Re: Grok Bot

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Post by nozzlegear »

rsalus wrote: post #148
thefourthchime wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this different than, say, OpenClaw, which I've heard people say does the same kind of things? Is it that they each have their own VM?

probably because it actually works

What prevented openclaw from working, and what does grok bot do differently that makes it succeed where openclaw fails?

Re: Grok Bot

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Post by nozzlegear »

anthonyskipper wrote: post #60

The scariest part of the interaction is the first video at https://x.ai/bot where the bot just snags your creds from the browser and takes over. So many people are going to give x all their data and creds.

Well, it's the "Everything App" after all!

/s

Re: Grok Bot

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Post by andrewflnr »

dgellow wrote: post #93
slg wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is becoming wildly inefficient, all in the name of improved efficiency.

And everybody in the chain can even justify their improved efficiency! It‘s capitalism endgoal. A massive Goldberg machine, where each piece can be optimized, but overall does produce close to no value compared to its cost and effort

This is no one's end goal. It's just the market being irrational longer than sane people can stay solvent.

Re: Grok Bot

#169

Post by andrewflnr »

__xor_eax_eax wrote: post #85
raincole wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the answer obvious? The 40 companies will have to use AI to filter the messages too. If your business is selling tokens, it'd be extremely lucrative for you if the whole society relies on tokens to perform basic operations. That's where we're heading to.

We will soon be in a world where human to human communication is the only one that has value. Mark my words

That was always true. We'll just know the difference better.

Re: Grok Bot

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Post by redrove »

blehn wrote: post #58
kerv wrote: post #52

Are there any opensource app/system that directly competes with a solution like this?

https://buzz.xyz/

I’ve tried using this as a self hosted instance and it’s been a little rough around the edges with Hermes.
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