Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut • Hacker News Board

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by lostlogin » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:46 PM UTC

bstewartny wrote: post #21

sidcool wrote: post #10

And there should be no gun control....Bollocks.

Gun control cant and wont solve these problems. These are societal problems. Anyone insane and evil enough to kill children would get guns on the black market or use some other weapon such as a bomb. Schools need to able to have armed guards and better locked/secured entries IMO.

Then why is this problem more prevalent in America? I know this sounds like baiting, it isn't. Surely gun laws come into it, even if they aren't the root cause (they aren't IMHO).

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by ceejayoz » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:47 PM UTC

hyperbovine wrote: post #11

untog wrote: post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

I came here to say exactly the same thing. Upvote from me. Second mass shooting of the week. "Guns don't kill people, ..."? Please.

I like how the "guns don't kill people" like to argue that guns protect people.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:47 PM UTC

xauronx wrote: post #7

This isn't hacker news. I'm going to see this depressing, heart wrenching news in a hundred other places... let me have my one safe technology news site :(

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Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by DannoHung » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:48 PM UTC

TallGuyShort wrote: post #13

untog wrote: post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

I say the same thing when people in oppressive regimes are silenced with no recourse because the government has no reason to fear it's own citizens. Sigh. I did not downvote your post, but frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are.

The weapons needed to resist a regime are not weapons we allow people to generally have in America at any rate.

If we really believed in the 2nd Amendment, people would be allowed to own serious weapons of war but not be allowed to own concealable personal firearms.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by llambda » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:48 PM UTC

ColinWright wrote: post #27

scarmig wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flag it, don't post in comments complaining about it. Then again, your comment reminded me to flag it...

I have flagged it, and I'm not so much complaining, as reminding people that this isn't a generic social site, it's intended to be specific to hackers. As such, anything that's not specifically of interest to hackers as opposed to general members of the public, does not belong here. Yes, this is of relevance to the vast majority of people in the USA, and it should be of major concern, and that's exactly why it doesn'…

Try on a little human emotion and sensitivity for size: this isn't your site to police. Even pg has pointed out the precision of the wording which you seemingly ignored.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by alexbell » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:48 PM UTC

It's depressing how we are becoming numb to mass shootings due to their frequency. It seems like a week can't go by without a tragedy like this occurring.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by feverishaaron » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:49 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #18

TallGuyShort wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say the same thing when people in oppressive regimes are silenced with no recourse because the government has no reason to fear it's own citizens. Sigh. I did not downvote your post, but frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are.

frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are. Where exactly do I make that assumption? You'll notice that I didn't even call for a blanket ban on guns, just that, as a nation, we could actually sit down and have a serious talk about whether people should be able to own weapons like this one for private use: [EDIT: I regret posting the link to the rifle,…

There are many different types of .223 caliber rifles, many of which are bolt-action and don't fall into the "oooh scary looking para-military-like assault rifle category".

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by hackinthebochs » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:49 PM UTC

vyrotek wrote: post #14

hyperbovine wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came here to say exactly the same thing. Upvote from me. Second mass shooting of the week. "Guns don't kill people, ..."? Please.

And spoons make you fat

Guns themselves don't kill people, but they make it highly efficient. Guns are tools, they create or enhance capabilities and as such they can be judged based on the probable outcomes of their usage.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by grkballer44 » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:49 PM UTC

Within a couple years this exact scenario will play out. A gunmen will talk in a crowded place loaded to the gills. Assault rifles, bullet proof vest, explosives hid around the building. He will pull out his gun and kill the poor unsuspecting first soul. After that initial shot someone with a concealed weapons permit is going to blow his brains out cutting his rampage short ( I truly hope the person who plays the hero is a little old lady packing heat in her purse).

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by pdeuchler » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 6:49 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #18

TallGuyShort wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say the same thing when people in oppressive regimes are silenced with no recourse because the government has no reason to fear it's own citizens. Sigh. I did not downvote your post, but frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are.

frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are. Where exactly do I make that assumption? You'll notice that I didn't even call for a blanket ban on guns, just that, as a nation, we could actually sit down and have a serious talk about whether people should be able to own weapons like this one for private use: [EDIT: I regret posting the link to the rifle,…

Stop linking to FUD. It's been well reported that the shooter had two handguns, a Glock and a Sig Sauer.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-co...