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Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by hyperbovine »

untog wrote: post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

I came here to say exactly the same thing. Upvote from me.

Second mass shooting of the week. "Guns don't kill people, ..."? Please.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by TallGuyShort »

untog wrote: post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

I say the same thing when people in oppressive regimes are silenced with no recourse because the government has no reason to fear it's own citizens. Sigh. I did not downvote your post, but frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

#14

Post by vyrotek »

hyperbovine wrote: post #11
untog wrote: post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

I came here to say exactly the same thing. Upvote from me. Second mass shooting of the week. "Guns don't kill people, ..."? Please.

And spoons make you fat

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

#15

Post by sixQuarks »

ColinWright wrote: post #8

From http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, ... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Yes, this is important, yes, it's newsworthy. No, it's not "Hacker News". It's all over the news, and there's nothing specific about hacking, or start-ups. It's not even of "deep interest" in any real sense. It's tragedy, pure and simple, and then it becomes pol…

your quote just negated your argument. Read it carefully, it says: "MOST stories about..." Most is the important word here.

This shooting is unprecedented in the US as far as the number of children killed, and will mark a point in history. Considering I don't even watch the news or go to any news web sites, if I hadn't heard about it on HN, I probably wouldn't have even known about it to be honest.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

#16

Post by ipince »

hyperbovine wrote: post #11
untog wrote: post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

I came here to say exactly the same thing. Upvote from me. Second mass shooting of the week. "Guns don't kill people, ..."? Please.

which was the first one?

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by scarmig »

ColinWright wrote: post #8

From http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, ... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Yes, this is important, yes, it's newsworthy. No, it's not "Hacker News". It's all over the news, and there's nothing specific about hacking, or start-ups. It's not even of "deep interest" in any real sense. It's tragedy, pure and simple, and then it becomes pol…

Flag it, don't post in comments complaining about it.

Then again, your comment reminded me to flag it...

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by untog »

TallGuyShort wrote: post #13
untog wrote: post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

I say the same thing when people in oppressive regimes are silenced with no recourse because the government has no reason to fear it's own citizens. Sigh. I did not downvote your post, but frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are.

frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are.

Where exactly do I make that assumption? You'll notice that I didn't even call for a blanket ban on guns, just that, as a nation, we could actually sit down and have a serious talk about whether people should be able to own weapons like this one for private use:

[EDIT: I regret posting the link to the rifle, there's clearly plenty of debate about it that detracts from the main topic of discussion- and we don't know any details for definite.]

https://twitter.com/MarlowNYC/status/279655599585775616

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by pg »

ColinWright wrote: post #8

From http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, ... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Yes, this is important, yes, it's newsworthy. No, it's not "Hacker News". It's all over the news, and there's nothing specific about hacking, or start-ups. It's not even of "deep interest" in any real sense. It's tragedy, pure and simple, and then it becomes pol…

Note those words most and probably.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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Post by untog »

ipince wrote: post #16
hyperbovine wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came here to say exactly the same thing. Upvote from me. Second mass shooting of the week. "Guns don't kill people, ..."? Please.

which was the first one?

It was in Oregon:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/12/justice/oregon-mall-shooting/i...

The sad reality is that most people barely heard about it, because "only" two people died.

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