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Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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And there should be no gun control....Bollocks.

Gun control cant and wont solve these problems. These are societal problems. Anyone insane and evil enough to kill children would get guns on the black market or use some other weapon such as a bomb. Schools need to able to have armed guards and better locked/secured entries IMO.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

#22
post #12

Horrible news. Also in China someone this morning stabbed 22 children at elementary school - wtf... http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2012/12/14/man-stabs-...

What did he stab the kids with, a spoon? None of them had life-threatening injuries.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

Well, why don't we bring it back to technology then?

Everyday on HN there's this drone about the next Instagram or 37 Signals. Or who will produce better email or flamewars regarding the next dominant mobile OS. Time wasted, honestly (Oh yeah, 'I figured out project management, again.')

Where's the debate on HN on how best to handle gun control in the U.S. using technology? Can this community not produce answers for those questions?

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came here to say exactly the same thing. Upvote from me. Second mass shooting of the week. "Guns don't kill people, ..."? Please.

And spoons make you fat

Exactly right. But did you using your spoon make 27 fat who didn't want to be?

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say the same thing when people in oppressive regimes are silenced with no recourse because the government has no reason to fear it's own citizens. Sigh. I did not downvote your post, but frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are.

frankly I'm angry that you just assume everyone who is pro-2nd amendment just isn't as enlightened as you are. Where exactly do I make that assumption? You'll notice that I didn't even call for a blanket ban on guns, just that, as a nation, we could actually sit down and have a serious talk about whether people should be able to own weapons like this one for private use: [EDIT: I regret posting the link to the rifle,…

Fair point. I'd also like a serious discussion on whether most government have also lost the right to own them.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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post #17

From http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, ... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Yes, this is important, yes, it's newsworthy. No, it's not "Hacker News". It's all over the news, and there's nothing specific about hacking, or start-ups. It's not even of "deep interest" in any real sense. It's tragedy, pure and simple, and then it becomes pol…

Flag it, don't post in comments complaining about it. Then again, your comment reminded me to flag it...

I have flagged it, and I'm not so much complaining, as reminding people that this isn't a generic social site, it's intended to be specific to hackers. As such, anything that's not specifically of interest to hackers as opposed to general members of the public, does not belong here.

Yes, this is of relevance to the vast majority of people in the USA, and it should be of major concern, and that's exactly why it doesn't belong here. Sometimes people need to be reminded of that.

Well, that's my point of view.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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From http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, ... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. Yes, this is important, yes, it's newsworthy. No, it's not "Hacker News". It's all over the news, and there's nothing specific about hacking, or start-ups. It's not even of "deep interest" in any real sense. It's tragedy, pure and simple, and then it becomes pol…

Maybe or maybe not. 27 or so dead kids out of the blue might be HN worthy.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

#29
post #3

A father of one of the children's... how does our society produce individuals like this? I know there are probably dozens of answers... edit: just to be clear, I am not a father of one of the children. I was told the shooter was a father of one of the children at the school. Not sure if that is correct.

Very many people suffer from undiagnosed mental illness.

An even larger amount just go way off the deep end.

Re: Mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut

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post #4

I can't wait until the part where we all don't talk about gun control and carry on as usual. Sigh. EDIT: I see my post is being downvoted. I know that it may come across as insensitive to immediately leap to the gun control debate, but frankly I'm more angry than upset by this news. How many times does it have to happen? We have a good 48 hours of emotional outpouring and then everyone forgets it ever happened.

Well, why don't we bring it back to technology then? Everyday on HN there's this drone about the next Instagram or 37 Signals. Or who will produce better email or flamewars regarding the next dominant mobile OS. Time wasted, honestly (Oh yeah, 'I figured out project management, again.') Where's the debate on HN on how best to handle gun control in the U.S. using technology? Can this community not produce answers for…

Well, I think this is an example of technology not being able to solve everything.

Computers are logical and deal in absolutes. People are the exact opposite. Gun control is an emotional, sometimes irrational issue, and the solutions (I suspect) lie in societal changes. Gun control doesn't need advanced technology, as far as I can see. But I'd be interested to know what ideas people have.

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