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Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by cindyllm »

1718627440 wrote: post #100
noman-land wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If an ad isn't blocked, I fast forward through it. If I can't fast forward, I mute it. If I can't mute it, I'll mute my computer and change tabs for the duration. If it's a page in a magazine, I flip it quickly. If it's a billboard I'll avert my gaze. If it's in an airplane I take out my headphones and cover the screen. I find being advertised to so annoying there's no way in hell I will spend my limited time on this…

Yeah, why should I watch your content? If you want me to watch your crap, please pay me. Otherwise it's my time and attention, you expect to get for free.

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Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by computronus »

DarkmSparks wrote: post #57

Vivaldi for the win.

Vivaldi is about to drop support for Manifest V2 as well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vivaldibrowser/comments/1urieed/com...

I'd been using it solely for GMail / Google Drive / etc. at work, for whatever improved compatibility a Chromium browser might provide over Firefox, which I use for everything else. I got the warning that UBlock Origin won't work, and I immediately ditched Vivaldi. I'm sad about it, I think Vivaldi otherwise is a good browser.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by KetoManx64 »

g8oz wrote: post #65
DarkmSparks wrote: post #57

Vivaldi for the win.

I love Vivaldi, but it also uses Chromium. If an extension is not in the Chrome Web store Vivaldi will not be able to install it. Firefox seems to be the only reasonably mainstream option for proper ad blocking.

Vivaldi has ad blocking built into it, and has no issue with you enabling developer settings and sideloading extensions from a file you download from Github Releases.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by Krssst »

unlimit wrote: post #83

I never stopped using Firefox.

It always feels weird to see so much more complaining about Firefox than Chrome and Edge, while it's still so very much far ahead in terms of respecting user choices. All AI features can easily be turned off (and I am assuming those respect user privacy better than the ones of Chrome/Edge). When you say no to Firefox, it remembers it. Chrome keeps asking me every few days / weeks to become the default browser.

If we lose Firefox the web is going to be a worse place to be in.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by KronisLV »

For what it's worth, I daily drive Edge on my Windows machine and it's an okay browser, haven't had a reason to install Chrome in ages (though did run Firefox for a while due to liking their dev tools better, it's still on my MacBook cause I like the UI more than Safari).

Even when my Intel Arc B580 has its drivers freeze the browser, I can just kill the GPU rendering process and it picks back up with no data loss, whereas with Firefox I had to restart the whole thing. Seems related to video decode, changing ANGLE backends or whatever in the browsers didn't really help and disabling hardware acceleration makes the experience suck more than it otherwise should.

If not for that, I'd still probably be on Firefox fully, despite Mozilla not exactly being the most sane of companies, though maybe trying to fund developing a browser and a whole org is a bit crazy as it is.

Brave was okay but nothing special. Maybe I should look at Vivaldi again, but it's an odd position to be in, when upstream is pushing changes on you, so it probably doesn't matter what they do or don't want to support long term, same as with every other Chromium derived browser.

Bummer about Chromium fucking over people who dislike ads.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by boredhedgehog »

zb3 wrote: post #56

I use MV3 AdGuard and it blocks ads for me. I don't get the fuss about MV2 deprecation.. sure, MV3 is limited compared to firefox, but it's not like MV2 was that much better, no version ever supported rewriting request response. MV3 DNR redirect is notably lame though, instead of replacing the response it generates a real redirect which breaks for example replacing the service worker response. But could MV2 webReques…

> I don't get the fuss about MV2 deprecation

Just observe this thread. It's a tribal moment, an occasion for a consumer to reassure himself that he has the right philosophy, uses the right product and rightly hates these other things that deserve to be hated. The fellow believers can upvote each other and downvote any empirical observation which threatens the faith.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by crazygringo »

Larrikin wrote: post #39
Balinares wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case your assumption here is that TFA is about Edge disabling adblockers: it's not. It's just removing ManifestV2 support. ManifestV3 is still supported. Despite what one might assume, MV3 does not seem to measurably diminish the effectiveness of adblockers; if anything, it improves it. (Source: https://petsymposium.org/popets/2026/popets-2026-0027.php )

The only reason anyone knows about the switch between manifest 2 and 3 is that the only meaningful difference is the crippled ad blocking ability. Nobody knows any other difference unless they are an extension developers or worked on making the Internet a worse place.

Right, but there is no meaningful difference in terms of ad blocking ability.

It's all theoretical. In practice, uBlock Origin Lite works amazingly on MV3. In my experience, it blocks all the ads. And I've been using it for a while now.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by parsimo2010 »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #60

This is ultimately the endpoint of all Chromium-based browsers. Even the most stalwart will throw in the towel on MV2 support sooner or later, because the effort required to maintain non-trivial patches against mainline becomes too great for the team to keep up with. It's a great demonstration of how Chromium's open source nature is something of a technicality. Unless you have an army of software engineers on par wit…

This has been obvious to everyone who knows that the key feature to the devs of these browsers is “-based.” None of the chromium-based browsers are anything other than UI tweaks and certain extensions being included by default. None of them rewrite significant parts of the browser engine, because that would be too much extra work.

The only projects which have a hope of maintaining MV2 compatibility are those who are a hard fork of an earlier version of chromium or a totally different engine.

To my point: The article mentions that Opera still says they will maintain MV2 for as long as it is “technically reasonable.” Mark my works, Google will find a way to break Opera’s MV2 patches that makes it too hard to maintain.

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