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Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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I honestly don't know how people do without ad blockers. Even with being ok with ads, they are so overwhelming that I could not use internet without blocking them

I don’t use adblockers. If a site has too many ads to be usable, I don’t visit it.

It's still a security risk though: you still have to visit those sites to determine if they have ads or not. Why browse without proper protection?

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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YT Music would be be better if I did not have to double check every of its suggestion for AI generation. Some accounts to make their AI use public which is nice but there's no way to see their channel info in YT Music to look for that.

You can actually tap on the channel name and scroll down to see the About section (at least on iOS). I never had genAI tracks being suggested on YouTube Music. Though it might be a factor that my account predates genAI music.

I use the web version and when clicking an artist's name I only see a description for well-known ones. Other channels don't show any description even though the YouTube side has one.

I assume one requirement for getting genAI tracks is being initially fine with hearing music from random channels and also hearing music produced after 2022; if one only cares (for example) about pre-2020 very well-known music they're probably going to be safe.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Running Unbound on my gateway with a curated adblock list. Easy setup, network-wide ad blocking on every device / browser.

DNS based adblockers have strictly worse adblocking capabilities than manifest v3 adblockers. I mean, sure they have their uses (eg. blocking ads/telemetry in apps or whatever), but bringing them up in this context doesn't really make sense.

I'd rather have 100% of devices on my network have near 90% of all ads effectively ad blocked than deal with installing ad blockers on all possible clients. Sure, I use an ad blocker on my personal machine with firefox, but none of the phones besides mine does. None of the family that visits do. Barely any of my friends that come over do. None of the TVs and streaming devices and whatnot do. I am blocking more ads from ever reaching my network than the majority of people who only use browser based adblockers do.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t use adblockers. If a site has too many ads to be usable, I don’t visit it.

So no youtube?

I find _yt-dlp_ to be the best ad-block solution for Youtube. One can watch it offline and archive it if value has been found.

Web Brower with ad-blocking setup can still have advertisements leak through. When it does and it still does after three refreshes, I just don't watch and move on.

I will always be a sunk-cost for Google.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#88

This is ultimately the endpoint of all Chromium-based browsers. Even the most stalwart will throw in the towel on MV2 support sooner or later, because the effort required to maintain non-trivial patches against mainline becomes too great for the team to keep up with. It's a great demonstration of how Chromium's open source nature is something of a technicality. Unless you have an army of software engineers on par wit…

I don't think this is the case. Having worked on Chromium, the codebase is very modular and internal API's change pretty slowly. I can stop work on my project (which does fairly serious surgery to the internals of the rendering system) and come back a month later and typically spend less than a day to merge head back in.

Maybe things have stabilized a bit?

I worked on multiple projects modifying Chromium and V8 a decade ago, and the GP matches my experience exactly. Absolute mountains of dev time just tracking the latest release and what we wanted to do wasn’t limited to one module or subsystem.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#89

This is ultimately the endpoint of all Chromium-based browsers. Even the most stalwart will throw in the towel on MV2 support sooner or later, because the effort required to maintain non-trivial patches against mainline becomes too great for the team to keep up with. It's a great demonstration of how Chromium's open source nature is something of a technicality. Unless you have an army of software engineers on par wit…

> open source nature is something of a technicality

No, but maybe this highlights that it's never accurate to conflate "open source" or "free (as in speech) software" with end-users having power over the people providing resources to the project.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#90

This is ultimately the endpoint of all Chromium-based browsers. Even the most stalwart will throw in the towel on MV2 support sooner or later, because the effort required to maintain non-trivial patches against mainline becomes too great for the team to keep up with. It's a great demonstration of how Chromium's open source nature is something of a technicality. Unless you have an army of software engineers on par wit…

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