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Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#61

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YouTube is tolerable with ads. If I found it intolerable, I would pay. Or not visit.

Humans are just so damn different in their tolerance to wasting time. I can't take feeling like I wasted 10 seconds of my time on an ad even when watching an video for recreation.

It's doubly crazy to me that someone would let a machine take their time like that. An inanimate object, and they give it any amount of respect instead of fixing it to do what they want.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#62

This is ultimately the endpoint of all Chromium-based browsers. Even the most stalwart will throw in the towel on MV2 support sooner or later, because the effort required to maintain non-trivial patches against mainline becomes too great for the team to keep up with. It's a great demonstration of how Chromium's open source nature is something of a technicality. Unless you have an army of software engineers on par wit…

Brave's built in adblocker is on par to uBlock Origin for me.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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I use MV3 AdGuard and it blocks ads for me. I don't get the fuss about MV2 deprecation.. sure, MV3 is limited compared to firefox, but it's not like MV2 was that much better, no version ever supported rewriting request response. MV3 DNR redirect is notably lame though, instead of replacing the response it generates a real redirect which breaks for example replacing the service worker response. But could MV2 webReques…

Rules are limited (in syntax and number) and you can only ship updated rules with updated extensions (at least you can skip the queue if you only update rulesets but it's VERY annoying to do). It's also missing a bunch of features: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as... (I see here that replacing response body is possible with Firefox only, is that your use-case?). MV2 was miles better.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#64

This is ultimately the endpoint of all Chromium-based browsers. Even the most stalwart will throw in the towel on MV2 support sooner or later, because the effort required to maintain non-trivial patches against mainline becomes too great for the team to keep up with. It's a great demonstration of how Chromium's open source nature is something of a technicality. Unless you have an army of software engineers on par wit…

I don't think this is the case.

Having worked on Chromium, the codebase is very modular and internal API's change pretty slowly.

I can stop work on my project (which does fairly serious surgery to the internals of the rendering system) and come back a month later and typically spend less than a day to merge head back in.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#65

Vivaldi for the win.

I love Vivaldi, but it also uses Chromium. If an extension is not in the Chrome Web store Vivaldi will not be able to install it.

Firefox seems to be the only reasonably mainstream option for proper ad blocking.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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In what sense? As a normie-tier user of Brave’s internal and blocker, it’s worked great. I never became a power-user of uBlock.

Not saying this is it, but I never managed to block YouTube shorts with brave adblocker (in mobile), where I can do it with ublock. If you can do it, please explain, I promise I will try asap (I really dislike ff mobile UI).

On mobile (similar on Desktop), just go to Setting -> Shields and Privacy -> Content Filters.

In there are a bunch of Youtube related blockers (including Shorts), that I find work really well. Mobile Brave also lets you lock/screen off your phone while a YT video continues playing, which is a killer feature for listening to podcasts.

I found myself becoming addicted to YT Shorts, and Brave's filters totally solved my problem.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#68

This is ultimately the endpoint of all Chromium-based browsers. Even the most stalwart will throw in the towel on MV2 support sooner or later, because the effort required to maintain non-trivial patches against mainline becomes too great for the team to keep up with. It's a great demonstration of how Chromium's open source nature is something of a technicality. Unless you have an army of software engineers on par wit…

Non-user hostile browsers will just build in the ad blocker. I have been using Brave Origin (the paid version of Brave that doesn't have all the extras) and the built-in ad blocking has been very good, including YouTube, etc.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

#69

Welp, the biggest reason that I use Edge just got thrown out, time to switch to Firefox.

Until 2023, Edge was sending every URL you visited to bingapis.com.

Microsoft's current privacy statement also says "Depending on your settings, this browsing history is sent to Microsoft"

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Some ads (e.g. I know YT ads used to be this way, haven't looked recently) can't be blocked at the network level because they are served from the same domain/servers as the content.

Sure, but have YT Premium for the family. Don't know how anyone can use YT without it. And it blocks 90% of ads, the rest are tolerable / go mostly unnoticed.

You’re just saying that 90% of your internet usage is YouTube?
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