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What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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There's a well-known book that labels programmers as a specific type of pointless job. "Duct tapers" is the category. Also task masters, who would have a foot under the software development umbrella, have space in the book. "Bullshit Jobs" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

We are socially punished for our extremely cushy jobs SWE has negative social value. Saying you’re a SWE or god forbid anything in AI in a dating/courtship context is basically suicide. We are paid so well as compensation for debasing ourselves socially. A lot of normies intuitively understand the concepts in that book even without reading it and either see you as evil or a grifter, maybe both, when you say you work…

Woah, bad day?

I've noticed or experienced absolutely none of this. The closest thing I can relate to is that I operate on a different intellectual plane from some of my blue-collar friends. This causes a divide and probably limits intimacy, but does not result in negative relationships.

Regarding the dating world, it impresses people that I'm an SWE. My role is a boon, maybe because it signals intelligence; I'm not sure.

Strongly disagree here. Would encourage you to try to reframe some of that. Sorry if that comes across as patronizing.

Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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"Not brave enough" to shoot an innocent person in the back and then run away?

He murdered a guilty man, not an innocent one. Still murder, and murder is wrong, but let's not get things twisted

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Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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From my experience, (outside of the quiet car), "extremely rude" - only South Korea and Japan?

i’m in the US, if you took a call for more than a few mins a busy metro car I’d tell you to knock it off

Unfortunately, these days, most of us won't do that because there is a high likelihood it could incite violence.

Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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I'm guessing it's also the culture and I'm reading about the history of the word "retarded". In my mind, it means slow/delayed, or slow comprehension. Which, I can comfortably use on myself sometimes. But it seems since 1998 it has been used for diagnosis and people are shunning the word, but that is mostly in western culture. But I think it was clear from my post what I mean when I said this, I don't know why I'm de…

You looked at an article, didn’t like what it said, and called somebody “retarded.” I’m not going to sit here and let you attempt to dress this up as some casual description after the fact. It is a personal attack that depends on commenting on someone’s cognitive ability using a word that is clearly controversial and offensive to many. If this is new information to you, then you should go look more into the subject a…

And yes English is not my first language and the definition and perception of this word changes in the west with the last 20 years as you noted.

I'm sorry to break your bubble but if you step out of this forum and the culture you are in, you will be offended every day.

Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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> A lot of those guys have back pain, inflexible schedules, working in extreme weather, And a lot of them don't? A lot of people who work on a computer all day also have back pain and inflexible schedules. Hell, I'm sure a lot of knowledge workers in other countries work in places with no air conditioning, for example - not exactly "extreme" but not climate-controlled, either.

There are definitely downsides to office work, but this post really implies to me that you don't actually personally know anyone who works in the trades. The amount of body pain/damage, extreme conditions, and ridiculous scheduling (as in, last minute decisions that you must be on site at 5:30am the next day, not as in overall hours) are pretty much incomparable to tech work.

I didn't say they were comparable. But there is a common refrain that every single person who works in the trades has their body basically destroyed by the time they're 40, which isn't remotely true, and that nobody who works in an office (or a number that is essentially a rounding error) has any physical effects directly caused by that, which also isn't remotely true.

Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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"And therefore, someone must decide what claims are reasonable." Yes, that person is MY DOCTOR. There is no world in which it is reasonable that my health care team says I should have particular treatment, and insurance executives get to say no I don't. Sadly I understand this is not the case, and we value money more than human life, but I do not find that reasonable, no matter how common it might be. I also understa…

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Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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Leave the wagon to where? Like get off the train? The trains are all wagon, no?

There's usually some space between train coaches (I think it's called a gangway?) or at the end of a coach (a vestibule) that is separated from the seats area by doors on both sides. You can take your call there.

Gotcha. On the trains I'm used to (Amtrak, NYC subway) spaces between cars are either nonexistent, or extremely dangerous.

Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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If you think all denied claims are denied in good faith, I don't know what to do for you. The insurers are hardly running up against hard resource limits, where there just isn't enough to go around and they have to triage. They are profit driven entities, and if they were legally allowed to deny all claims they would be required to do so by their shareholders. No system is perfect, but patients shouldn't die to boost…

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Re: What happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers

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cybersecurity has taken over my life as a IT Manager. Security was always important, and always something I worked on, but now it's all I work on and it's exhausting.

Managing patch management)software and firmware. Users who cannot help but enter credentials via phishing regardless of training.

Chasing the next best practice (SSL VPN out, IPsec is back, etc).

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