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Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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What are you talking about? Schools are targets for shooters. Sad but certainly not fake.

There are school shootings and they’re certainly awful. Similarly, people sometimes get struck by lightning, and this is awful too. But if your goal is to prevent deaths, rather than to focus on the things that make for the most lurid news stories, then there are boring things like road safety that loom much larger in the numbers than they do in the public imagination. Here are some numbers on causes of death for chi…

From your own link, there are 12,000 injury related deaths. Of those, over 1/3 are firearms related and 1/3 of those are homicides. They may not be school shootings, but damn does that seem related to the second word.

Anyway, to answer your question: because we already do a lot to stop the other causes. Cars have oodles of safety regulations, for instance. Home pools have rules on covers in many states, lifeguards are placed at water features. But we can't just snap our fingers and stop all car deaths, or cure all disease.

Meanwhile shooting deaths are an entirely artificial problem, which we actively do less than nothing to solve. Both by avoiding root cause fixes - not only avoiding addressing mental health, but actively encouraging bullying of minorities like trans students - but also avoiding regulation of the most effective tools (guns).

And, just a final point, humans are human. A kid dying in a tragic accident or disease is heartbreaking. But a dozen kids being eviscerated on Live TV repeatedly for someone's entire adult life, with tens of millions of people having the audacity to say "get over it, we refuse to talk about this" or "even "it's a hoax"? That's enraging.

We are emotional animals, but I'm more than happy that we try to leverage our empathy to make the world a better place. We can do more than one thing at a time, after all. For instance, under your argument, nobody should have bothered inventing amber alerts because it doesn't save hundreds of kids per year.

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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The world where entirely too many of our "leaders" and their "cult members" wish for the "Mad Max" future rather than the "Star Trek" one.

mad max has aesthetics; they're hoping for 1984

Mad Max + 1984 + Terminator + Fahrenheit 451 all rolled together into one fantabulous dystopian death planet.

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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Why is it always a Lord of the Rings-named company that has some seemingly-evil authoritarian agenda? I've seen Palantir, Anduril, Rivendell, Durin, Sauron, Valar, Lembas, Ereborn, and multiple Mithrils.

Because their CEO's all want to be Sauron (or Morgoth).

Vote #1 Aragorn.

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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Interpreting the Second Amendment in a sane way might be a start. Its wording seems clear to me: it establishes the need for a well-regulated militia as necessary to the security of the state, and grants the right to bear arms in that context . No aspect of the current situation is "well-regulated", nor are citizens, apart from a tiny number of fringe groups, organized into militias, and those that are could scarcely…

That's something that's always puzzled me. The impression I get as a non-American is that the "well-regulated militia" bit is more or less ignored - like you're meant to register with your local militia in order to have a gun, but no-one actually checks up on it? So why not tighten that up? Define a well-regulated militia as being one that requires, say, 200 hours of training to join, followed by a further 100 hours…

It’s because the stupid amendment is ambiguous.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Technically, it could be argued that the Militia clause is descriptive of one particular application of guns, not prescriptive of their every Constitutional use. But there has been endless disagreement on this subject.

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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Genuinely impressed the lengths they’ll go to in the US order to avoid doing something about guns. Next stop - magic incantations to bestow bulletproof status on schoolkids

"Thoughts and prayers". It's always "thoughts and prayers" and invoking an inaginary "good guy with a gun". Can it get much more magical/mystical/performative than that?

And then the "good guy" gets shot in the back and killed. https://www.denver7.com/news/local-news/mother-of-good-samar...

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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Equip them with explosive load and make them pursue the shooters like kamikaze drones. That would be effective and with less side effects like with pepper spray & wrong eyes of unrelated /s And then, you need communicating 3 drones at least. If the shooter decides to run away and run into a room locking the door, then the first drone is making the hole,the second it's job and the third is waiting outside for the shoo…

Why not putting weapons on the drones themselves? Little ground tanks with revolving turrets spewing bullets (and fire!) in the approximate direction of the shooter and their hostages, now that's a powerful deterrent image, yeehaw!

With bullets you won't get them all in the same way as an explosion would /s

But your suggestion with little ground tanks is a constructive one :)

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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one step away from Slaughterbots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fa9lVwHHqg

Oh god this is too real to watch

already too real in eastern Ukraine. the chickens just haven't come home to roost in the rest of the first world, yet.
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