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Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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"Thoughts and prayers". It's always "thoughts and prayers" and invoking an inaginary "good guy with a gun". Can it get much more magical/mystical/performative than that?

Given an active shooter threats, what is the solution if not a good guy with a gun?

More gun homicides per capita happen in states with looser gun laws by and large. The good guy with a gun is largely a myth as compared to “i have a gun and I’m going to use it to kill you”.

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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Genuinely impressed the lengths they’ll go to in the US order to avoid doing something about guns. Next stop - magic incantations to bestow bulletproof status on schoolkids

It's not something that you can just wave a magic wand. The steps to change the constitution is really really hard (deliberately).

They don’t seem to mind on the other amendments.

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

#83
post #4

Genuinely impressed the lengths they’ll go to in the US order to avoid doing something about guns. Next stop - magic incantations to bestow bulletproof status on schoolkids

You could ban guns completely and you’d still have to deal with active shooters. There are 500M guns in the USA. Those dont just disappear. Its idiotic not to harden targets. The best way to do that’s debatable, but schools should be hardened.

“We’ve tried absolutely nothing and we’re out of ideas!”

It’s also idiotic to not support mental health restrictions, gun violence research, liability but the well (russian) funded NRA isn’t a fan anymore so here we are.

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

#84
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Thoughts and prayers". It's always "thoughts and prayers" and invoking an inaginary "good guy with a gun". Can it get much more magical/mystical/performative than that?

Given an active shooter threats, what is the solution if not a good guy with a gun?

The existence of active shooter threats and especially their prevalence shows that the best protection - prevention - isn't working. And in the US, the best possible protection (strict gun ownership laws) is prevented based on an ideology that arguably misreads the Constitution on purpose to keep a whole industry alive.

And should it come to an actual active shooter, the response needs to be a properly equipped and trained police force acting against it rather than sitting it out outside the building. That is not the proverbial "good guy with a gun" because that's implied to be a random untrained civilian on the scene.

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

#85
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Thoughts and prayers". It's always "thoughts and prayers" and invoking an inaginary "good guy with a gun". Can it get much more magical/mystical/performative than that?

Given an active shooter threats, what is the solution if not a good guy with a gun?

Where’s the data supporting that that’s a good solution and prevents casualties in the first place

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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> Next stop - magic incantations to bestow bulletproof status on schoolkids They already sell Kevlar backpacks

A top seller in Libya, Somali, Iraq, and that one particular first-world country which our lawyers from that country advise us to refrain from naming! Buy one today!

Are you sure it still deserves the "first world" label ?

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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Equip them with explosive load and make them pursue the shooters like kamikaze drones. That would be effective and with less side effects like with pepper spray & wrong eyes of unrelated /s

And then, you need communicating 3 drones at least. If the shooter decides to run away and run into a room locking the door, then the first drone is making the hole,the second it's job and the third is waiting outside for the shooter who possibly might escape the room.

I see it as natural evolution of this. Weapons can't be forbidden. It's a human right /s

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could ban guns completely and you’d still have to deal with active shooters. There are 500M guns in the USA. Those dont just disappear. Its idiotic not to harden targets. The best way to do that’s debatable, but schools should be hardened.

They should give every student a gun at this point (/s because I feel like someone would agree with me). Edit: everyone should also wear a bulletproof vest at minimum. Desks should be equipped with reactive armor to defend against anti-tank warheads. A Phalanx C-RAM will be installed on the roof next to the AC units.

I proposed to equip the drones with explosive load instead of pepper spray. Much more effective and faster on stopping the shooting. And have at least 3 drones pursuing the active shooter (3 per shooter).

Re: Schools are adding pepper-spraying drones to help combat active shooters

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post #4

Genuinely impressed the lengths they’ll go to in the US order to avoid doing something about guns. Next stop - magic incantations to bestow bulletproof status on schoolkids

"I think it's worth it. It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment..." -Charlie Kirk

How can someone say they are "pro life" and at the same time believe this bizarre inhuman nonsense?
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