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New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by gms »

intended wrote: post #172
gms wrote: post #121

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I agree about being outsiders. Social media (if this is even a well-defined term) is just how people communicate these days. No need for hysteria and banning (I was on Slashdot in the 90s. Was that not social media?). I think it’s as ignorant to want to ban kids from social media today as it was ignorant to want to ban my generation from video games 30 years ago. The kids at the time thought the adults were clueless…

A parallel between attitudes about new technologies, does not work when the parallel between the two technologies itself is broken. I too was on slashdot, back in the early days of 5 digit/6 digit IDs. I’ve since worked in trust and safety, and contributed to research on it, and have played video games enough that it’s the “sport” I prefer. The evidence and research shows that social media is entirely different than…

I think you should talk to some real life teenagers to see how hysterical this impression is.

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Post by iamleppert »

I cancelled my Facebook account and all other active meta properties. Looking back, it feels like escaping some kind of abusive relationship. Complete the the urgent pleas to come back. It's one of those things that you really only can appreciate in hindsight.

Whatever Facebook was, or became, one thing is clear: it's toxic and people are far better off without it.

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Post by throw1234567891 »

autoexec wrote: post #241
throw1234567891 wrote: post #164

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There’s a single naked woman in it. No hard bum, oral, every cavity sex. Have you ever held a Playboy magazine in your hand?

I guess "superior" is subjective

Yeah, it depends what you like.

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

keybored wrote: post #170
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #137

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A corporation will shift the capital loss to a tax write off like any other firm. The taxpayer just takes a dollar out of their pocket, and pays a dollar in tax revenue short fall. This fine changes nothing, punishes tax payers, and Meta will just lobby more politicians. =3

Sometimes I wonder if these comments are about lamenting the state of big corporations, about defending big corporations, [1] or about lamenting how fungible value exchange were even the Rule of Law can be reduced to an expense makes everyone except for conentrated wealth into losers. [1] “They won this battle and the last one. But the other side has millions of soldiers. They will just replace them.”

>about defending big corporations

It is not personal opinion, but rather a fact of doing international large business.

Sometimes doing "something" means the political posture of appearing to do "anything popular" with the naive, and achieving nothing but the status quo within a year.

If our legal systems were serious... they would have split up the company, and Chapter 7 divisions that failed to fix problems the judge ordered addressed. =3

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Post by yunwal »

ourmandave wrote: post #222
neonstatic wrote: post #199

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pssst, we don't hate corporations and billionaires. We hate organizations and people that knowingly harm children for profit.

I hate billionaires!

Ok, maybe a few of them are fine people who have too much money, but the vast majority of them are in their position because they were willing to siphon money from lower classes using unethical means. Of all of the competitive advantages you can claim, the "no moral scruples" one is the most persistent.

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Post by SoftTalker »

tristanj wrote: post #201
tmp10423288442 wrote: post #109

A lot of people on this story are making the usual snarky remarks that, oh, this is just a slap on the wrist—some trivial proportion of Meta’s global revenue. And that is true, but unlike the EU, for example, New Mexico is a tiny jurisdiction. It only has a little bit more than 2 million people. So actually, a fine—or a judgment—of $942 million that applies just to New Mexico is enormous. If you look at Meta’s revenu…

This analysis actually understates how massive and outsized the penalties are. The court ruling only applies to children in New Mexico under age 18. New Mexico has ~450,000 people under age 18, of which roughly 140,000 are between ages 13-17 (Meta officially requires age 13+ to use their platforms). Recent Pew surveys of U.S. teens ages 13–17 show ~70% of teenagers use Instagram and ~30% use Facebook. In New Mexico,…

Kids are not going to see a dime of that money. It will get spent on a lot of political churn, propaganda, pet projects, and maybe some programs that will pay for a couple of hours of counseling for the kids.

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Post by watwut »

autoexec wrote: post #239
watwut wrote: post #216

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And yet, women dont create whole networks of sexual abuse and overall are less sexually violent. And they are less likely to create whole ideologies, political parties and movements that rationalize and defend all that abuse.

> And yet, women dont create whole networks of sexual abuse That explains why women like Ghislaine Maxwell or Kat Torres don't exist I guess.

Ghislaine Maxwell was a part od male run male dominanted abuse network. The one which was supported by powerful men in goverment and politicians. Adult women were minority there.

Nice try. But while some women were part of Epstein network, overall it was male network. And pretty ideologically misogynistic at that.

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Post by noomecksican »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #282

It's a bit ironic, as New Mexico is absolutely terrible at treating mental health; especially in poor folks. I'll lay odds that it's down near the bottom of the list. I have known a few folks with relatives in New Mexico that have had mental heath issues, and it was a nightmare for them. They were brought to New York, where they finally got decent treatment. I am told (by New Mexicans), that this is because New Mexic…

> It's a bit ironic, as New Mexico is absolutely terrible at treating mental health; especially in poor folks. I'll lay odds that it's down near the bottom of the list.

This is probably true and not surprising. New Mexico is usually near the bottom of any “good” list and near the top of any “bad” list.

> I am told (by New Mexicans), that this is because New Mexico voters don't want any healthcare going to immigrants.

No, that’s ridiculous. New Mexico is a strongly blue state and is very pro–illegal immigration generally (in that respect we’re nothing like Arizona or Texas). NM was one of the last holdouts to roll out RealID driver’s licenses because we refused to require the strict mandatory identification because of our illegal immigrant population.

New Mexico simply has bad healthcare outcomes generally. A lot of this is because we’re a poverty-stricken state with poor economy and education outcomes. Another part of the problem is we’ve driven away doctors due to massive, legally uncapped punitive damages in malpractice lawsuits. (Notice the thematic resemblance to the story we’re currently commenting on.) One of the biggest political issues in the 2026 legislative session was malpractice reform to try to stem the flow of doctors leaving the state, opposed at every turn of course by our infestation of Better Call Saul–reminiscent trial lawyers.

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Post by bubblegumcrisis »

exe34 wrote: post #275
harimau777 wrote: post #267

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Sure, but individuals pay the cost too. Society also has an obligation to make them whole or to at least give them accountability.

I suppose in the civilised world, society looks after the victims - but of course in 3rd world shit holes, they are on their own.

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Post by [deleted] »

troyvit wrote: post #290
tmp10423288442 wrote: post #109

A lot of people on this story are making the usual snarky remarks that, oh, this is just a slap on the wrist—some trivial proportion of Meta’s global revenue. And that is true, but unlike the EU, for example, New Mexico is a tiny jurisdiction. It only has a little bit more than 2 million people. So actually, a fine—or a judgment—of $942 million that applies just to New Mexico is enormous. If you look at Meta’s revenu…

> Given that, the judgment is a half to two-thirds of what Meta could have obtained from New Mexico. Do you think that now that one state has won this judgement (for now) other states could follow?

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