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New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by gms »

intended wrote: post #108
gms wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know many parents who manage this fine, I don't see why you can't: 1. You control whether your child has a phone and how much they are allowed to use it (Apple provides all sorts of controls for parents). 2. Every child in the school is not an addict. This is (for lack of a better term) a boomer view of the world.

Sure you can argue the nuances, however this is missing the forest for the trees. Children don’t grow up in a vacuum. They see how their peers operate, what they talk about, what they are playing with. Not being able to do that marks you as an outsider. And when the “toys” we are talking about are phones, video games, and social media, it isn’t just a question of a one off argument or rule. I have seen a 1 year old,…

I agree about being outsiders. Social media (if this is even a well-defined term) is just how people communicate these days. No need for hysteria and banning (I was on Slashdot in the 90s. Was that not social media?).

I think it’s as ignorant to want to ban kids from social media today as it was ignorant to want to ban my generation from video games 30 years ago. The kids at the time thought the adults were clueless people who did not understand technology. Kids today correctly think the same way about adults who are hysterical about social media.

Each parent can decide the time and age boundaries for their kids. But to think a 14 year old is going to accept being excluded from communication with their friends is just laughable.

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by lesostep »

Scaled wrote: post #120
homeonthemtn wrote: post #20

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Yes. It's ok to say no to porn and gore. I'm tired of acting like we need it to survive otherwise some dystopian genie will be unleashed. Get rid of that shit.

If you don't like free speech, feel free to move to Russia, China, North Korea, etc. But don't drag the rest of free society down with you.

That wouldn't solve his issue, though: all of those countries have gore and porn

Maybe Utah or UAE would be a better fit for this.

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by hax0ron3 »

What next, FedEx will be ordered to pay a billion dollars to address harm caused by the fact that some people mail child porn using FedEx?

Movie studios will be ordered to pay a billion dollars each to address harm that movies caused kids by teaching them unrealistic ideas about how hand-to-hand combat works?

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by worik »

somenameforme wrote: post #66
krapp wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Playboy magazines" are part of the problem. Fetishes aren't what has distorted mens' ideas of intimacy and sexual relations. Fetishes can be a perfectly healthy and consensual form of sexual expression. The problem is the lack of proper sexual education in schools and open dialogue in society because we're limited by Christian taboos to only ever mentioning abstinence until marriage, so porn becomes the only way men…

Sex education is, outside of some places in Europe, very rare. You'll certainly find such things far and few between in Asia. So not only is it absent in non-Christian nations, but the places where it is present, like Scandiland for ex, tend to be Christian. Porn, let alone fetish porn, has a big problem because all the actors, including "amateur", are not only 'heavily used' and completely desensitized, but also the…

How long is it we had private bedrooms?

Not that long ago we would all have been very used to watching people have sex.

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by xnorswap »

hax0ron3 wrote: post #123

What next, FedEx will be ordered to pay a billion dollars to address harm caused by the fact that some people mail child porn using FedEx? Movie studios will be ordered to pay a billion dollars each to address harm that movies caused kids by teaching them unrealistic ideas about how hand-to-hand combat works?

> a jury found that the company knowingly harmed children’s mental health and concealed what it knew about child sexual exploitation on its platforms

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by nc55g3g »

I’ll believe it when I see it. Meta will appeal this into the ground and drag it out for years. The AI age-prediction thing sounds nice but we all know how well their AI handles content moderation. They'll half-ass it, pay some fines as cost of doing business, and nothing will change.

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by tshaddox »

hax0ron3 wrote: post #123

What next, FedEx will be ordered to pay a billion dollars to address harm caused by the fact that some people mail child porn using FedEx? Movie studios will be ordered to pay a billion dollars each to address harm that movies caused kids by teaching them unrealistic ideas about how hand-to-hand combat works?

In this case Meta was found guilty by a jury of knowingly harming children’s mental health and deliberately lying to users about the safety measure they take against sexual exploitation of children.

If a movie studio or shipping company does that, then I do hope that “what’s next” is the same (or harsher) judgement and sentencing.

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by pmontra »

gms wrote: post #94
drivebyhooting wrote: post #9

What benefit do kids draw from instagram and facebook?

Socialising. Same benefit I drew from playing video games with my friends when I was in school. (Though, to be a bit pedantic about it, kids don't use Facebook.)

I did my socializing in real life but I guess that if kids are not allowed to get out anymore, they must do it with screens.

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by tstrimple »

cm2012 wrote: post #67
krapp wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Playboy magazines" are part of the problem. Fetishes aren't what has distorted mens' ideas of intimacy and sexual relations. Fetishes can be a perfectly healthy and consensual form of sexual expression. The problem is the lack of proper sexual education in schools and open dialogue in society because we're limited by Christian taboos to only ever mentioning abstinence until marriage, so porn becomes the only way men…

Lol I have never met someone in my adult life in the usa who was strictly for abstinence before marriage. You are extremely overstating the taboo of it here.

Sounds like you're extremely limited in your experiences in the US. Maybe you should sit this one out? Your ignorance is not as good as someone else's lived experience.

https://ncac.org/resource/timeline-of-abstinence-only-educat...

Re: New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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Post by sapphicsnail »

cm2012 wrote: post #67
krapp wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Playboy magazines" are part of the problem. Fetishes aren't what has distorted mens' ideas of intimacy and sexual relations. Fetishes can be a perfectly healthy and consensual form of sexual expression. The problem is the lack of proper sexual education in schools and open dialogue in society because we're limited by Christian taboos to only ever mentioning abstinence until marriage, so porn becomes the only way men…

Lol I have never met someone in my adult life in the usa who was strictly for abstinence before marriage. You are extremely overstating the taboo of it here.

Do you know many religious people? It's pretty common in the evangelical Christian community I grew up in.
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