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Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by KomoD »

artisinal wrote: post #252
z3t4 wrote: post #39

In Sweden where I live you need to use the digital national ID whenever you make a credit card transaction via some app, for example when buying a bus ticket, so you need to have it with you at all times. But with the ID you can also take a quick loan and transfer all the money to a foreign bank basically ruining your life as the bank take no responsibility if the ID is used during the transaction.

Needing a government app to approve credit card transactions sounds very dystopian. Or did I misread that?

It's not a government app, and you don't need it.

BankID (which is the one I assume he's talking about, and not Freja eID) is owned by several banks, but you aren't forced to use it. You can use a "bankdosa" (a separate physical device for auth)

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by Symbiote »

artisinal wrote: post #252
z3t4 wrote: post #39

In Sweden where I live you need to use the digital national ID whenever you make a credit card transaction via some app, for example when buying a bus ticket, so you need to have it with you at all times. But with the ID you can also take a quick loan and transfer all the money to a foreign bank basically ruining your life as the bank take no responsibility if the ID is used during the transaction.

Needing a government app to approve credit card transactions sounds very dystopian. Or did I misread that?

The app is owned by a consortium of Swedish banks, so you are using a bank app to approve the credit card / bank transaction.

At least in my experience, I only needed to authenticate with the app the first time I bought a train ticket, but I don't buy bus/train tickets in Sweden very often.

(But this authentication is annoying for trivial online purchases like this, so given the choice I prefer to use a physical card.)

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by KomoD »

apelapan wrote: post #240
ianmurrays wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the app not require authentication? At least MitID in Denmark requires a 6-digit PIN at the very minimum, or biometrics optionally.

The issue is that someone can look over your shoulder and memorize your code, if you use a pin in public. Some people will use the same pin for screen lock and BankID, and if someone gets their code and their phone they can cause a huge amount of trouble in a very short time.

That's just their fault at that point, in my opinion.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by rsynnott »

ShinyLeftPad wrote: post #120
fcarraldo wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transit directions includes walking on both ends. Because the train doesn't start and end precisely as your destination (this is called a "taxi cab").

Ok that makes sense. My tips would be: check if it mistakenly thinks you can't directly walk to the station or something. In my town there's a particular place i often go to where Google I guess just doesn't know or care that there IS a crossing. if I just pick a point across the street it suggests much better routes And personally if it's more than 5 min of walking i would just look up the way to the station and the…

> My tips would be: check if it mistakenly thinks you can't directly walk to the station or something.

no, it knows and will give a sensible route if you ask for walking directions to the station.

> And lobby your government for sorting out public transportation to your block? It seems crazy inconvenient

Dublin is far from a grid layout, and has serious problems with eastwest transport; there are a bunch of buses and a tram going east to west in the city center, and a few partial orbital routes in the outer suburbs, but going eastwest near but not actually in the center is a problem. They were supposed to launch a proper inner orbital bus route a few years ago, but it has dragged on; in particular it requires special buses, because double-deckers (Dublin Bus's fleet is otherwise entirely double decker) won't fit under the very old railway bridges to the east, and it requires some hard infra work around Heuston Station. But at this point they finally have the Special Buses in operation (there were a lot of teething problems) filling in on other routes, so not sure what the holdup is.

That said, given that it's 15 Google Map minutes walk from the station to office (10 minutes in reality; Google Maps assumes a quite slow walking pace), I'm not sure I'll bother with the orbital bus even if it ever launches.

(I always thought they could fix this rather neatly by building one of these over the canals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuppertal_Schwebebahn)

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by rsynnott »

smcin wrote: post #227
jey wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might just be realistic about the median American's tolerance for walking. Most Americans live in suburbs that are not walkable. At least, I know my own tolerance for walking is very abnormal for an American, and it's due to having lived in walking-oriented cities like Berkeley.

Transit App allows you configure both your walking and cycling speeds. Works great (will show you 15-20min walking), generates lots of options on how-to-get-there (e.g. bike-on-bus, Uber to train station), gives more accurate ETAs. Also instead of reducing "public transit" to a binary, it gives you much more granularity in enabling/disabling which bus/tram/light-rail/mass transit/train options, and even which specifi…

> Transit App allows you configure both your walking and cycling speeds

Oh, nice! Didn't realise they'd added this.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by rsynnott »

microgpt wrote: post #276
tomhow wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've banned this account for going on tilt, posting unsubstantive, flamebait comments. This is not what HN is for, and we've asked you before to observe the guidelines.

[flagged]

I suppose everyone needs a hobby...

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by rsynnott »

Melatonic wrote: post #103
rsynnott wrote: post #21

Adding “running” to the list of things that Google engineers apparently don’t do. Where it joins “walking”. Google Maps will suggest almost arbitrarily bonkers public transport directions to avoid walking. Personal favourite: the sensible way to get from my house to work, unless the weather is terrible, is six minutes on a train and a 15 min walk. Google Maps would, generally, prefer that I spend 15 mins on the train…

Its also possible that its optimised for least walking for other reasons. If you were disabled in any way (like a wheel chair) or even an old lady maybe this is the better route. Or if was during a huge snowstorm or heatwave?

It has a "less walking" option, which I don't have turned on. I assume that is for those usecases.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by rsynnott »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #58
rsynnott wrote: post #21

Adding “running” to the list of things that Google engineers apparently don’t do. Where it joins “walking”. Google Maps will suggest almost arbitrarily bonkers public transport directions to avoid walking. Personal favourite: the sensible way to get from my house to work, unless the weather is terrible, is six minutes on a train and a 15 min walk. Google Maps would, generally, prefer that I spend 15 mins on the train…

Google's mapper has an option for whether to minimize walking. Turned on, it will do things like this, prioritizing the route with the least walking. it would be quite willing to do this sort of thing. Turned off, it will prioritize based on arrival time. There is a maximum walking distance, I don't know the limit but it's certainly more than 10 minutes. I have never managed to trigger it other than by asking for a r…

I have that turned off (I assume it would be even worse with that turned on)

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by rsynnott »

Reason077 wrote: post #91
rsynnott wrote: post #21

Adding “running” to the list of things that Google engineers apparently don’t do. Where it joins “walking”. Google Maps will suggest almost arbitrarily bonkers public transport directions to avoid walking. Personal favourite: the sensible way to get from my house to work, unless the weather is terrible, is six minutes on a train and a 15 min walk. Google Maps would, generally, prefer that I spend 15 mins on the train…

> ”Adding “running” to the list of things that Google engineers apparently don’t do.” Not with a phone, no. Why would you take your phone with you when you run? It’s bulky and annoying. If you really need to be reachable or to be able to pay for something in emergencies, that’s what smart watches are for.

I have a smart watch; I still take a phone when running. It's not particularly inconvenient to do so. Lots of people don't have smartwatches, of course, and yet might still want to run.
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