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Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by cuvert »

rsynnott wrote: post #21

Adding “running” to the list of things that Google engineers apparently don’t do. Where it joins “walking”. Google Maps will suggest almost arbitrarily bonkers public transport directions to avoid walking. Personal favourite: the sensible way to get from my house to work, unless the weather is terrible, is six minutes on a train and a 15 min walk. Google Maps would, generally, prefer that I spend 15 mins on the train…

My main two puzzles with Google Maps are: - on my timeline I have a few driving and motorcycling, and I have neither of those, I only bike to work. But my puzzle here is: how do they know that someone is riding a motorcycle or a car? - when I ask it for walking routes, the estimated time is always way longer than my walking time. I get to the destination in half of time. So what do they do with all the tracking?

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by [deleted] »

taraindara wrote: post #225
kylecazar wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're asking for navigation features, I desperately want a "chill" toggle. I drive around the NY metropolitan area a lot. No, I don't want to take the route that saves a few minutes if it involves merging onto I95 at rush hour with 300 feet to cross 4 lanes of traffic for the next exit.

You can do this already. Leave the map up, but silence all direction corrections. Then try to make your own way. If you already have the time to chill, you can take a little more time to think ahead about the route you’ll try. Make a wrong turn or exit and the map will still point you in the right direction.

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Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by roryirvine »

artisinal wrote: post #250
jerlam wrote: post #10

I found this doozy from someone trying to test out the feature: > After looking over Google’s advice, my key takeaway was that thieves are in much better shape than me, and run both longer and faster than this nerdy writer has in more than two decades. https://www.androidauthority.com/android-theft-detection-loc... Personally, the main situation I'm concerned about is on a bus or train, where someone grabs your phone…

Pull the emergency handle and get your phone back. If you live in South America you might even be allowed to use lethal force doing so.

What about the hundreds of journeys you'll inevitably disrupt? Should your fellow passengers perhaps be free to use lethal force against you in return?

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by artisinal »

rcxdude wrote: post #265
dashdashu wrote: post #260

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lethal force against a thief of your smartphone seems disproportionate to me

Maybe, but these thieves might do more damage than just needing to replace the phone. Some of them will attempt to use the information on it for extortion or blackmail (which is why such a feature exists in the first place).

Don’t forget the lifelong trauma you get from a robbery. I know people who stopped using public transport after getting their bag violently snatched from them.

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Post by cocoto »

djtango wrote: post #268
throwaway27448 wrote: post #20

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> They send them to countries where they aren't locked iphones will remain locked regardless of what country they're in. I presume you're talking about states who are seemingly unwilling to pursue/prosecute claims of theft?

My high level understanding is there are countries where things like IMEI barring aren't enforced and the actual unlocking of the phone is possible. Via jailbreaking or flashing I presume

Not possible on modern iPhones.

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Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by cocoto »

bombcar wrote: post #87
Waterluvian wrote: post #14

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Interesting point. The article linked in a sibling comment (about 2025 thefts) suggests that they are being resold. Which makes sense if it's a $2000 product that's so stealable. But I do recall there being a lot of difficulty resetting a phone that isn't yours. Do you feel the is article wrong? Are there ways around it? Is "pretty immune to reselling-theft" a newer feature than 2025?

If I have your unlocked iPhone, I could probably reset your Apple ID because I have access to your email and your texts so I can reset your Apple ID password unlock your phone unlock. Remove it from Find My and reset it. It makes me wonder if there’s some way to put a third lock on there that’s not normally unlocked.

I’m almost sure that you need some password or biometrics to reset Apple ID, change Find My or change biometrics. Moreover if you don’t trust FaceID you can easily lock it (to ask for password instead of biometrics) when needed.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by artisinal »

roryirvine wrote: post #273
artisinal wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pull the emergency handle and get your phone back. If you live in South America you might even be allowed to use lethal force doing so.

What about the hundreds of journeys you'll inevitably disrupt? Should your fellow passengers perhaps be free to use lethal force against you in return?

I don’t mind being late for work if that means someone got their phone back and justice was served. I’m fairly certain my boss would give me a high five.

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by alistairSH »

freetime2 wrote: post #122

In a somewhat similar vein, I find that when I use my Apple Watch to track a hike, it will frequently auto pause or ask me if I've finished when I'm climbing slowly up a steep ascent. It annoys the heck out of me because that's often when I'm working hardest. My watch is also tracking my heart rate - and I think it's pretty safe to assume that if my HR is holding steady at 150 BPM then I have not stopped for a break.…

The Apple Watch is definitely fashion accessory first and fitness device second.

I can't use it running in the colder seasons - a sweaty sleeve triggers the lap count (tap the screen - no ability to reassign to a button). It's one of the most annoying and fixable (if they cared) issues on an Apple device I've encountered. Not even the ultra-premium, ulta-outdoorsy Ultra version lets you map "lap count" to the extra button!!!

Re: My phone detects going on a run as “someone snatching my phone and running off”

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Post by RamblingCTO »

alistairSH wrote: post #279
freetime2 wrote: post #122

In a somewhat similar vein, I find that when I use my Apple Watch to track a hike, it will frequently auto pause or ask me if I've finished when I'm climbing slowly up a steep ascent. It annoys the heck out of me because that's often when I'm working hardest. My watch is also tracking my heart rate - and I think it's pretty safe to assume that if my HR is holding steady at 150 BPM then I have not stopped for a break.…

The Apple Watch is definitely fashion accessory first and fitness device second. I can't use it running in the colder seasons - a sweaty sleeve triggers the lap count (tap the screen - no ability to reassign to a button). It's one of the most annoying and fixable (if they cared) issues on an Apple device I've encountered. Not even the ultra-premium, ulta-outdoorsy Ultra version lets you map "lap count" to the extra b…

It's just both (or more for the casual jogger than serious ultra runner for example). If you need a proper, dedicated sports device get a coros, garmin or suunto. Apple Watch is more leaning towards day to day, while these things are for sports and just for sports. But suck at day to day stuff if you want the fancy apple watch things. Pick your poison.
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