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US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

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It's even dumber than that. Someone built a wind farm near Trump's golf course in Scotland and now he hates wind farms: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c15l3knp4xyo . He thinks they're ugly and noisy.

> He thinks they're ugly and noisy The feeling is mutual

Are you saying that wind farms think you are ugly and noisy?

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#252
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We need more energy. We should be doing this, gas, nuclear, solar. Not either or.

We also need to use less total energy, regardless of source. That number doesn't have to always go up.

Electrification roughly halves total energy use in an economy.

Fossil fuels are very inefficient compared with alternatives like EVs and heat pumps and renewables.

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What is your contingency plan for if the groundwork that has been laid to falsify election results works? Wait harder? The ethical US has rolled over already.

Funny how at this point election fraud is a bipartisan issue, everyone seems to believe it's happening or will happen!

Time passes. Trump is literally doing his utmost to disenfranchise voters, called electors to personally harass them, and has spent years "investigating the fraud" to setup groundwork for violating people's voting rights.

One side says bullshit, the other side says "look at all of the fucking evidence of your eyes"

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#254
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Oh it shouldn't be a political issue at all. We don't need the government forcing us to reduce energy use, we need people to do it for themselves.

I wish. Look up "coal rolling".

Coal rolling is done to spite the holier-than-thou sanctamonious bullshit that people who say "we need to eat lentils and live in a cave" come out with. It's an illogical reaction, but it's human.

We need answers, not revert to a world of catholic sin

Change your car to run off electric, great

Change your city to transport 1000 people by train rahter than 1000 separate cars, great

Power your AC from your off-grid rooftop solar, great

Whine that people need to stop using AC, stop eating meat, stop watching TV, it's just harmful.

Re: US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

#255

> Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a statement posted on X that Americans deserve an energy system built on common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies". I agree. This is why we are building offshore wind and not subsidizing fossil fuels, right?

> not one dependent on "costly subsidies". While paying out 1.2 billion dollars.

Out country is ran by bunch of Lionel Hutz clones

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All kinds of power generation are typically heavily subdized in some way. I do not think this "common sense" strategy exists.

"common sense" is common sense because it is not "specialised sense" or "expert sense" So if politicians base their decisions on "common sense", they confess to not being able to use experts that refine their knowledge and position about a topic. A "common sense" strategy is therefore what is most popular and on the basis of the understanding of laymen without deeper understanding or knowledge.

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Re: US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

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US has absurdly large domestic energy resources like gas reserves, coal reserves, uranium, and thermal energy infrastructure. Then, there is the supply chain argument: the specialized turbines, components, vessels and manufacturing chains are manufactured overseas and imported to support Wind. RWE is itself German. It’s good to reduce dependence on foreign supply chains. Fishing and maritime was also cited as a conce…

>It’s good to reduce dependence on foreign supply chains

The fact that we're still basically entirely reliant on the middle east and other foreign producers for our domestic fuel supply suggests this isn't really that big of a deal. Even in the middle of a war that is generating massive profits for the oil industry, no one is suggesting they should add refinery capacity or convert existing ones to use domestic oil.

This move is about the president's personal vendetta against offshore wind and satisfying his financial backers in the fossil fuel industry.

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post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"common sense" is common sense because it is not "specialised sense" or "expert sense" So if politicians base their decisions on "common sense", they confess to not being able to use experts that refine their knowledge and position about a topic. A "common sense" strategy is therefore what is most popular and on the basis of the understanding of laymen without deeper understanding or knowledge.

You dont need deeper understanding of knowledge for everything. Ask Grandma whether she needs a chemical engineering degree to bake apple pie. Then there is the Theory of Bounded Rationality which tells us expertise may exist but resources, time, energy, info, attention etc etc may not therefore bounds and limits of expertise alone must be recognized and solutions reached are satisficable rather than optimal. Aiming…

> Ask Grandma whether she needs a chemical engineering degree to bake apple pie.

Grandma doesn't bake with "common sense", she is using the specialized knowledge of cooking & baking.

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