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I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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post #508

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Why would you want a forced selection of app store? Just make it so you can execute executables. If the user wants an app store, they'll install one.

Which is why, The Year of Desktop Linux is the fragmentation it is on, versus using Android, ChromeOS or WebOS.

Because a selection of app stores totally isn't fragmented. How will you get on that list, by the way?

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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The frustrating part is that security increasingly means proving you are using an approved device and software stack, rather than proving that you are actually the account owner

the people deciding this are the ones selling the devices

What? It's banks.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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If only a few techies will be able to use Linux phone, banks will freely lock payment services access down to two platforms: ios and android. No way out, it's happening right now (in the name of "security", of course, but surprisingly it does not stop scam from happening). Web will be locked down too, via secureboot stack browser integration (not -s, it's already actually monopolised to chrome only, as FF lives on fu…

Why do they actually need to do it? They all allow web access from just about any browser. I haven’t tried but I’m sure there must be one where the web interface works from Emacs. Why are apps different?

Tracing, tracking and control of the population. It's who control what apps run on a device. And what (spyware) the next update brings.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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post #508

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Which is why, The Year of Desktop Linux is the fragmentation it is on, versus using Android, ChromeOS or WebOS.

Because a selection of app stores totally isn't fragmented. How will you get on that list, by the way?

PlayStore gets you on Android, ChromeOS.

WebOS is anyway only relevant for TVs, and any PWA will do.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Many banks don't run with Google play services, and even with them on grapheneos some still won't run because of play integrity. Don't tell me about grapheneos, I have a pixel phone and did run it for a few months with/without play services. At the end, you're always going to absolutely need that one app that won't run without Gplay.

>At the end, you're always going to absolutely need that one app that won't run without Gplay. Then you can install GMS into its own user profile with that GMS-dependent app, and when not using it you can log out of that user and put it fully at rest.

Play integrity.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Android doesn't have it per se, but Seedvault runs on various Android-derived systems (notably but not only GrapheneOS) and does a bang-up job of backing up both applications and data

"Bang-up" is a good description of what Seedvault does, because your backup will have holes in it. Anything made with Android's backup system has the same problem. Applications can specify that they can't be backed up, and you as a user have no way of overriding that. Highlights on my smartphone are Fennec (Firefox), Termux, Cromite, Element, Syncthing, various videogames and other utilities. I absolutely want these…

> Highlights on my smartphone are Fennec (Firefox), Termux, Cromite, Element, Syncthing, various videogames and other utilities.

What is even their motivation to not be backed up?

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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post #325

I bought Jolla Phone 2026. Was thinking about Pixel 10 and another round of GrapheneOS, but changed my mind. Was using Sailfish OS on Sonys phone but drove me nuts for two reasons: - had to reverse banking up to kick out the checks each time when new version came out and I became quite proficient at it (decompiled into git and each new version over it, then git diff, and fix the checks, committed the changes) - worse…

Bluetooth support is for Jolla's android support. 5.2 for ports and waydroid is awayz out. My guess,18 months.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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The Jolla 2 is said to be "sold out". Apparently, they produce the phones in batches, not sure when the next one is due?

Just received mine. Sure, the interface is far, far slicker than what is available on the Librem 5, but there are already hints of "you are not really the owner of the device" (for instance default "safety" contacts in the contact app that you cannot delete, the inability to easily use "reverse tethering" (getting Internet by USB through a computer) and so on) that will make me keep the Librem 5, with all its own iss…

The safety contacts issue is legislated in Europe. Removing them is breaking the law, I believe. Can be done if you really want to hack.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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I have thought about buying one of the Pinephone things, because I want to actually own the computer in my pocket, but I have always hesitated because the hardware is always kind of ancient for these things. The Pinephone doesn’t even have 5G, so I am not even sure that my phone service will let me activate it now. What I would like is to take my existing iPhone 13 Pro and install a real Linux on it so I could guaran…

I'm running SailfishOs on Gigasets assembled in Germany and they have G5. It's a port and I don't have android support at all. I maintain a number if apps and it feels like ownership. Also have a spare Jolla with droid stuff, but use that max once a week.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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post #305

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Can you share a link to said script please?

Sure; it was one of many posts in xda for a cheapo mid-level Chinese device. I haven't gone through it too deeply to understand and optimize further, works fine as-is to me. https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-16-official-lineageos-23-for-mi-...

Looks like it's helping. Tha ks a lot!
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