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GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
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They never were. They were just really good at maintaining the bluster and backing it up with expensive lawyers. Now that they don't come in claws-first like they did when they were a NASDAQ rocket to the stars, it's easy to see. Their MO was to court an executive and sell second-rate tools to them before the people who had to use them had a chance to say anything. It doesn't matter how much evidence you can provide…
They definitely managed to create a lot of reliable products. Windows NT was one of them. Up to Windows XP the products were pretty solid and each had visible improvement against the previous one. Their language products were/are still solid IMO. Maybe Visual Studio is sluggish, but we can still use an older version if we want. Plus they put a lot of effort optimizing VSCode, too. Even back in the MS-DOS/16-bit Windo…
reliable? Windows is the only operating system you have to constantly reinstall because it gets slower after a few months. To the point people think it's totally normal to do that!
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think so. GitHub was bought by Microsoft 8 years ago and people have only started complaining about its uptime in the last year or so - exactly correlating with the surge in LLM use.
> people have only started complaining about its uptime in the last year or so I'm sorry but this made me laugh out loud. That isn't true at all, this has been going on for years . This conversation[0] from six years ago has discussion about the outages starting to become much more frequent in December 2019. It has never gotten better in that time, it's just continually degraded. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item…
Yup. GitHub has easily the worst human-noticable downtime for all SaaS services I've used going back over 10 years.
Most people work around it by self-hosting github (which has other problems but uptime aint one).
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#344I have a barely known/used GitHub application and losing it from time to time over some qq#%@ repo that blows up both my actions and CloudFlare workers. Over a few hundreds of repos that were installed, I have now seen two where the authors installed every AI system on the planet. This starts a vicious circle where one app comments on the PR, triggers all other installed apps, who also start commenting on the PR. This quickly reaches the limit of number of comments on the PR BUT GitHub will keep pinging you about any event that is happening to that insane PR. Of course, your app itself will fail to comment so that triggers the redundancy I have including emails from my app about a failure (which I can't read on the email itself for logs privacy, so I need to check my system logs). Just last week, I had a blow up with hundreds of failure emails. All of this was coming from a single dude PR which had nothing but AI apps fighting one another.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#345Given the recent history of outages, I wonder how many are seriously considering moving off GitHub for anything other than code hosting. I mean actions / workflows.
Mitchell Hashimoto had a blog post a few months ago talking about him moving off of GitHub: https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github This is a man who's spent a significant portion of every day for the last 15 years on GitHub.
Ghostty is still there though? https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty doesn't seem like a serious effort. And:
>My personal projects and other work will remain on GitHub for now.
People always talk about "leaving GitHub" but it's all talk.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
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But that's just a perfectly fitting excuse for GitHub degradation. Web search, steaming, high frequency trading, and many other systems are resource demanding, and keep scaling. Whether to handle the surge due to bots or wider adoption. But GitHub can't scale git? It isn't even git failing. Incompetence in leadership is what makes a tech business technically unable to meet growing demand.
> Incompetence in leadership is what makes a tech business technically unable to meet growing demand. I don't think this is true. Take LLMs for example, you need GPUs to serve them and these are in short supply at the moment making it hard to meet demand. I don't think this is necessarily the fault of incompetent leadership.
Maybe competent leadership would have spun up a foundry 5 years ago?
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#347Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think so. GitHub was bought by Microsoft 8 years ago and people have only started complaining about its uptime in the last year or so - exactly correlating with the surge in LLM use.
https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/ Seems pretty conclusive. Very similar story when they bought skype.
Hosting that on GitHub Pages is ballsy.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#348Mods, I think there is something wrong with the front page algorithm. This post has been stuck there for more than a year now. Among with assorted thoughts on AI or new model point release announcements.
Everything changes and yet nothing changes.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#349Earlier quoted context omitted.
> people have only started complaining about its uptime in the last year or so I'm sorry but this made me laugh out loud. That isn't true at all, this has been going on for years . This conversation[0] from six years ago has discussion about the outages starting to become much more frequent in December 2019. It has never gotten better in that time, it's just continually degraded. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item…
Yup. GitHub has easily the worst human-noticable downtime for all SaaS services I've used going back over 10 years. Most people work around it by self-hosting github (which has other problems but uptime aint one).
What problems does it have?
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
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I honestly don't care either way. Either they are using AI as an excuse to hide their incompetence, or they are constantly going down due to the AI they have been promoting . If your platform can't handle the use patterns of AI, then perhaps don't go around telling everyone to use AI for everything? It's a self-inflicted wound, you could also just not do this. Too bad Microsoft has bet its future on AI not being a gi…
Someone else quoted a 14x increase in load due to AI hammering github. I wouldn't be at all shocked if that was true, considering how much AI tools are DDOSing the entire internet. That plus migrating clouds is insanely difficult to manage. They're almost certainly drowning in traffic and trying to keep up.
There's no evidence the internet DDOS is AI companies