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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by IshKebab »

askonomm wrote: post #146
zehaeva wrote: post #141

I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

To me this correlates more to them being bought by Microsoft, a company known for being seemingly incapable of creating quality software to the point that it's not even funny anymore, and also known for sloppifying all the products they touch.

I don't think so. GitHub was bought by Microsoft 8 years ago and people have only started complaining about its uptime in the last year or so - exactly correlating with the surge in LLM use.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by iamleppert »

It's really crazy to me they can just be down for hours and can't recover their own systems. It shows they don't have the capability or infrastructure to roll back disastrous changes. These kinds of things are a tell on the organization and operational excellence (or not). As soon as a viable alternative surfaces for Github, I'm moving off and will advise all my clients to do so as well.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by pluralmonad »

IshKebab wrote: post #151
askonomm wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me this correlates more to them being bought by Microsoft, a company known for being seemingly incapable of creating quality software to the point that it's not even funny anymore, and also known for sloppifying all the products they touch.

I don't think so. GitHub was bought by Microsoft 8 years ago and people have only started complaining about its uptime in the last year or so - exactly correlating with the surge in LLM use.

Didn't github also migrate at azure recently? That certainly can't help.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by porridgeraisin »

zehaeva wrote: post #141

I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

For the longest time, I didn't appreciate the "AI-induced traffic" excuse. But seriously, I checked the rough github egress for our lab versus an old log from 2024, and there's an order of magnitude or two difference. From asking around, it seems people all have the gh cli tool and let it loose with parallel tool calls and e.g LLM's polling Actions in a background bash while loop with sleep $TOO_FEW_SECONDS. Some people use a variety of skills where the agent makes a commit every few code changes, and uses Issues for its memory/log. And they have O(5) sessions at the same time doing all kinds of crap. It's the same with PR checks/PRs. Recently we also saw continued usage throughout the night as well, which did not exist pre coding agents. Loops or whatever they call cron jobs in the harnesses these days is the reason. It must be adding up.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by rachr »

jeltz wrote: post #127
mschuetz wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except anything I'd self host would be down much more often. I've hardly ever actually experienced down time issues with github when I needed it.

Then you would be exceptionally bad at selfhosting as Github has like one nine of uptime.

It still has 2 9s according to the status page, but it is approaching Claude levels of downtime. :(

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by gershy »

zehaeva wrote: post #141

I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

I guess github is kind of a shared garden. Interesting that, like in game theory, if everyone is using it too much, no one gets to use it.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by BigTuna »

zehaeva wrote: post #141

I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

It's probably not attributable to AI in the way that you're thinking - Github has been absorbing an exponential increase in usage, and that increase is mostly due to new AI-related projects being created and worked on.

Though I'm sure some of the blame can go to internal slop code.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by PsylentKnight »

simoncion wrote: post #90
alamsterdam wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mon and Dad (MS) are (generally) pretty solid with uptime. What is happening at GH? Rate of change trying to keep up with new challengers? Over-reliance on AI? Engineers trying to debug slop?

> What is happening at GH? In large part, the move from AWS to Azure. Azure's just bad.

Based on previous posts I've seen about this, IIRC the timing seems to imply that it has more to do with them being hammered with AI slop than it does with the Azure transition. Who really knows though

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by markus_zhang »

hinkley wrote: post #38
x3n0ph3n3 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is not a serious company anymore.

They never were. They were just really good at maintaining the bluster and backing it up with expensive lawyers. Now that they don't come in claws-first like they did when they were a NASDAQ rocket to the stars, it's easy to see. Their MO was to court an executive and sell second-rate tools to them before the people who had to use them had a chance to say anything. It doesn't matter how much evidence you can provide…

They definitely managed to create a lot of reliable products.

Windows NT was one of them. Up to Windows XP the products were pretty solid and each had visible improvement against the previous one.

Their language products were/are still solid IMO. Maybe Visual Studio is sluggish, but we can still use an older version if we want. Plus they put a lot of effort optimizing VSCode, too.

Even back in the MS-DOS/16-bit Windows days, when things broke down quite easily, I think they still provide the best bang for individual users and developers. There was no competitors who could provide so much value back then.

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