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Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by roaringrocky »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #147
officeplant wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it moving the goalposts to ask Waymo to demonstrate a drive across America and not in well mapped cities with only lower speeds? How did we define "self driving"?

No True Scotsman only drives in the city. All True Scotsmen drive across the entire U.S. of A. Waymo has completed 20 MILLION autonomous rides, 6.5m last quarter alone... At what point does it get to say it can self-drive? When there's not a single non-self-driven car left on the road?

>At what point does it get to say it can self-drive?

My criteria: When you can drop this car at a random spot on earth (where cars can actually go of course) and tell it to go to place B. So this can be anywhere from a big city to a small dirt road in the forest.

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Post by tstrimple »

QuercusMax wrote: post #181
tstrimple wrote: post #98

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Great answer. Just to add, this is with red meat where E. Coli is the main concern. That exists in the gut of the animal and that bacteria can travel to the surface of the muscles during the butchering process. Poultry on the other hand is mainly concerned with Salmonella which does live in the muscles of the animal. That's why people aren't ordering rare chicken breast.

"bacteria can travel to the surface of the muscles during the butchering process" This way undersells what's actually happening: fecal matter from the intestines gets onto your meat. This shouldn't happen with proper practices.

Somewhere between the stomach and the anus fecal matter is created. E. Coli lives along the entire tract. You're not wrong, but it's not just fecal matter which contains E. Coli. Basically the entire process involves it. Stating that shit on your meat is the source of E. Coli is understating the issue but it also triggers a more visceral reaction.

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Post by akmarinov »

unsatchmo wrote: post #386

Why is everyone being so damned precious about software? Software is not fine wine or a nice cigar.

They’ve been told all their lives that software must be clean, SOLID, DRY and now something comes along that doesn’t care about any of that and the business people prefer it because it gets the job done really quick.

And people hate change

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Post by Iolaum »

lelanthran wrote: post #381
somenameforme wrote: post #361

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I'd bring the cheapo French press kit it into the A- domain once you appreciate the number one trick to making good coffee: DON'T BOIL THE WATER. Water that is hot, but well below boiling brings out the flavor of the beans a million times more than boiling water. Get a glass kettle, and turn it off when you start to get some decent bubble action on the bottom. Once you get that down, zomg - a French press with even t…

> DON'T BOIL THE WATER. Water that is hot, but well below boiling "Boiling" differs in temperature from place to place. Mineral content of water, altitude makes a large difference.

Not sure this is a meaningful factor for normal circumstances (for example below 1km altitude and for water that's safe to drink).

According to CGPT at 1km altitude the boiling temperature of water is 96.7 C.

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Post by latexr »

Xirdus wrote: post #17
xtajv wrote: post #12

I do not appreciate when authors use the royal "we" to speak for all software engineers when admitting to low quality-control standards. I suspect that it is an attempt to broach an uncomfortable topic through vulnerable self-disclosure, but we need to be serious about admitting when there is a problem somewhere. "Bugs" are not any more cute or fuzzy or entertaining or harmless than the engine "gremlins" that haunted…

I just want to point out this is not a royal "we". It's a regular "we". Royal "we" is when you say "we" but mean a singular person, yourself. Here, the author does actually mean multiple people beyond themselves - like you pointed out, they claim to speak for all software engineers.

> they claim to speak for all software engineers.

I have reread the post and see no such claim. They are using “we” to refer to the significant subset of humanity which fits the description, not “all software engineers”.

If someone says “we are addicted to fast food” (or social media, or what have you), we can understand they don’t mean literally everyone. Some people never even eat it, so they couldn’t be addicted, but there’s enough people who do to make the claim. It’s a generalisation.

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Post by latexr »

PyWoody wrote: post #329
litoE wrote: post #294

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There's also the wifely we, meaning "you", as in "we need to take out the trash."

My dad's reply to that was always, "We? What, do you have a mouse in your pocket?"

> "We? What, do you have a mouse in your pocket?"

Suggested response: “I do, but the poor thing is not strong enough. No no, I meant one of us needs to do it. Please do go ahead, if you don’t mind, as I’m a bit busy feeding the mouse.”

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Post by [deleted] »

el1s7 wrote: post #231
igiveup wrote: post #202

This stuff should have some warning tag: rando's musings about LLMs. Lately, whenever I think I found an interesting article it turns out to be this.

You're also a rando, but the difference is that the rando who wrote article made it into the front page of HN

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Post by latexr »

daxfohl wrote: post #380
fnoef wrote: post #215

Either my brain is cooked or this is AI generated/assisted text. The problem is I can no longer tell the difference between AI and non-AI writing. Maybe my brain got bad, maybe everyone now writes like AI writes. I no longer know.

My manager said "load-bearing" during a presentation the other day and I almost lost it.

I know someone—who doesn’t even use LLMs all that much, I don’t think—who has verbally told me numerous times “you are absolutely right”. I never said anything, but the comment always takes me out of the conversation.
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