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Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

#151

I can't wait to never see a reasoning button ever again. Why do I have to reason about what reasoning level to use?

> I can't wait to never see a reasoning button ever again.

I hope to see a memory-less mode that is not incognito. Want fresh contexts sometimes, but also want to keep the chats saved in history. Memory can spoil some creative work, it dials the model in too tightly.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

#152

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Is that really accurate though? I use Claude in my software job but the majority of my friends do not use it at all. And I never use it for anything other than that either. TBH I don’t find it useful at all for personal use. It’s totally soulless for creative ventures and absolute dogshit at researching the things I want it to be good at (I.e. planning a vacation or finding new music). All that combined with the soci…

We're all in our own personal bubbles and extrapolating from there as normal, but ChatGPT has some 800 million users, most of them outside the US. Countries like the Philippines and Thailand. I don't think they're all vibecoding the hottest new SaaS app but maybe they are.

Even the Philippines and Thailand are lower in per-capita usage compared to the US, most of the higher use are in Europe. Interestingly Australia & New Zealand are also pretty high, similar to Europe and far more than Asia & Africa in general, with the exception being Saudi Arabia (similar to US) and Israel (even higher than Australia). https://openai.com/signals/data

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

#153
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Google has multiple massive cost advantages over OAI: TPUs, free access to massively valuable data (search index, gmail, maps reviews/PO/ navigation, youtube, android etc.), lower talent costs, lower training costs, lower distribution costs (they can shove AI down our throats in so many different places), lower ad infrastructure costs (it will be a lot of work for OAI to recreate adwords), lower ad sales costs (OAI d…

I'm not sure Google has lower talent costs. What makes you think so?

You are right to question that. I am basing that statement off of the many famous engineers that have recently left and were very highly paid. My guess is Google is ceding the frontier and the high salaries that go with it and letting Anthropic/OpenAI fight over the high priced talent that exit. The remaining non-famous engineers will not be able to command celebrity salaries. But this is just speculation and I don't have great evidence that the celebrity salaries are enough to meaningfully reduce overall talent costs.

A counter point would be OAI and Anthropic can pay with more equity that they can promise will go to the moon. But all the equity base compensation eventually dilutes earnings per share so it's not free once you go public and people start caring about that.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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> Our mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. We’re introducing updates to ChatGPT that improve everyday conversations while expanding access for Free users. This clearly implies that they believe ChatGPT models are AGI and are now willing to say it out loud. Which I think is a fair interpretation of the term. They are general purpose intelligence in that you can get help f…

>It also needs to be differentiated from ASI with godlike powers many times greater than human. Wasn't there a thread the other day about how very few humans on earth can understand the new math proofs? Although "with sufficient study" vs "not even with unlimited study" are probably worth distinguishing there.

> Wasn't there a thread the other day about how very few humans on earth can understand the new math proofs?

Do you perhaps have a link to it? Tried to search around but couldn’t find it. Would love to read it

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

#157

What's even more noticable is that Anthropic still hasn't responded to the Kimi K3 release or the DeepSeek release.

Do they? With Fable/Opus duo they have a better product and their customers are paying for quality. They want to be the premium LLM provider letting others compete for the commoditized part of the market.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

#158

I can't wait to never see a reasoning button ever again. Why do I have to reason about what reasoning level to use?

I have the opposite problem. I'm not well-calibrated on when I'd want lower reasoning than what's available to me (and how to compare that to lower-tier models). OpenAI now has Luna, Terra and Sol, each at Low, Medium, High and Xhigh, with Pro/Ultra depending on harness and plan. That's ~15 possible combinations of model and reasoning level, and there isn't a satisfactory explanation of which one you want for any par…

I don’t see why they just don’t allow a smaller model to answer the question while letting the bigger one vet it. The vetting can be asynchronous and can be delivered after a few seconds (if it’s an easy query). If it’s a hard query, the UI can show the answer is currently being vetted or something.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

#159

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I also scoffed at the ChatGPT $200 Pro plan back then. Back when coding for me still meant copy-paste from the web version, it was only worth the $20/month for me. They only added the $100 Pro plan in April during GPT 5.4 times. Today I happily pay $400/month for Codex and Claude Code.

Don’t say the last part out loud or it will be $800.

With Kimi K3 and Qwen 3.8 Max on their heels, I think the only way they can pull that off is by selling much better models.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

#160

Excellent. Yes, please give free users more access and leave paying codex users in the dust. Wise plan, Sam.

How are they leaving paying users in the dust? This is their cheapest model which you can already use full-blast even on a $20 plan.
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