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Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by _carbyau_ »

recursivegirth wrote: post #88
SoftTalker wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To achieve the best outcomes, I agree. But even a cheap steak can be decent if it's cooked properly. And an expensive prime cut can be ruined by cooking it improperly.

Any steak can be delicious with a butter bath and then hit it with that A1 :).

> hit it with that A1

This is likely some food thing I don't know about rather than a quite large piece of paper yeah?

But when I google "A1 food":

- AI summary: "A1 is a famous Malaysian food brand known for herbal soups and instant noodles"

- top link is "A1 Nutrition Lean Protein Blend Dry Dog Food 15kg"

At this point, I don't know what is going on.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by scotty79 »

asdfman123 wrote: post #99

God dammit I thought this was going to teach me how to cook a steak, not talk about AI.

I once cooked a steak by throwing it into a auto-rotating 45deg pivoted induction cooking pot for random amount of time with some olive oil, sweet paprika, black pepper and rosemary. It even cooked with a lid on because it was flopping around inside as the pot rotated. It came out pretty nice. I've eaten less tasty ones in restaurants.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #311
recursivegirth wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any steak can be delicious with a butter bath and then hit it with that A1 :).

> hit it with that A1 This is likely some food thing I don't know about rather than a quite large piece of paper yeah? But when I google "A1 food": - AI summary: "A1 is a famous Malaysian food brand known for herbal soups and instant noodles" - top link is "A1 Nutrition Lean Protein Blend Dry Dog Food 15kg" At this point, I don't know what is going on.

A1 steak sauce. Been around for 195 years, hence the GP didn't feel the need to expand.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by antipurist »

socalgal2 wrote: post #305
MostlyStable wrote: post #30

I take the point, but I think the author picked a poor analogy. Cooking even an excellent steak is actually not that hard. In fact, I'd argue that it's among the easiest things to master/make at a top level quality at home. Does it require some modicum of attention and understanding? Sure. But starting with a high quality cut, owning a meat-thermometer, and knowing about reverse searing is about all it takes to relia…

The analogy I'd use is using LLMs for coding is like a movie director does for movies. A movie director does not draw storyboards, they ask an H.I. (Human Intelligence) storyboard artists to do that. They don't make the costumes they ask an H.I. costume maker to do that. They don't control the camera they ask a H.I. camera person to do that. They don't usually act, they ask H.I. actors to do that. They don't make the…

One major difference is that H.I. often cares for the outcome, so directing them is enough. LLM has no capacity to care, it is just a tool, more like watercolors that you paint with than a H.I. storyboard artist that can promise you meaningful results.

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Post by airstrike »

ssl-3 wrote: post #295
airstrike wrote: post #285

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I'm not chastising anyone, I have no power over them

> you're like a kid on training wheels Anyhoo.

You should really read the dictionary definition of the word "chastise".

https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=chastise

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by _carbyau_ »

BenjiWiebe wrote: post #313
_carbyau_ wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> hit it with that A1 This is likely some food thing I don't know about rather than a quite large piece of paper yeah? But when I google "A1 food": - AI summary: "A1 is a famous Malaysian food brand known for herbal soups and instant noodles" - top link is "A1 Nutrition Lean Protein Blend Dry Dog Food 15kg" At this point, I don't know what is going on.

A1 steak sauce. Been around for 195 years, hence the GP didn't feel the need to expand.

...doing more research...

That's almost as long as Australia has been colonised and certainly older than Australian federation and yet, A1 steak sauce is not a big thing in our supermarkets apparently.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by Spooky23 »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #317
BenjiWiebe wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A1 steak sauce. Been around for 195 years, hence the GP didn't feel the need to expand.

...doing more research... That's almost as long as Australia has been colonised and certainly older than Australian federation and yet, A1 steak sauce is not a big thing in our supermarkets apparently.

Maybe HP / brown sauce. Would be familiar.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by ssl-3 »

airstrike wrote: post #315
ssl-3 wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're like a kid on training wheels Anyhoo.

You should really read the dictionary definition of the word "chastise". https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=chastise

To criticize severely; reprimand or rebuke.

k.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by muzani »

aqme28 wrote: post #178
spiffytech wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know people who can cook a lot of food pretty well, but don't understand why they can't use a laser thermometer to check their meat. Knowing really is half the battle.

If you cook enough you can tell by feel

The resistance of the steak is going to depend on what cut of meat you are poking (sirloin is stiffer than filet), the grade of meat (prime is more tender than select), how thick it is (thick cuts will yield more than thin), the age of the steer (young is more tender), the breed of steer (cooked Wagyu is more tender than Holstein), the age of the meat (wet aged is more tender than fresh killed), and what the steer was fed (corn fed is usually more tender than grass fed), among other things. [1]

It's not entirely a myth; if you've poked hundreds of steaks by the same supplier, same cuts, same grade, you'll eventually get a feel for them.

The thermometer analogy does carry over though. Some people are not there to be productive or good at their jobs. The job is about them, not their work.

And you can go your whole life without ever cooking or tasting a good steak. The people who can tell the difference will go elsewhere, and those who can't will come back.

And then there's always the boss who wishes he started a franchise but will go with what he has - he'll hire a bunch of newbies or foreign workers who know how to use a thermometer.

[1] https://amazingribs.com/ratings-reviews/best-thermometers/ho...

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