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xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Post by BeetleB »

solid_fuel wrote: post #10
BeetleB wrote: post #4

I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

Interesting, you encounter a fact you don’t like and just quit reading all together. What a curious way to engage with the world.

I'll bite. The title is about ignoring regulations related to a data center. How is any of what I quoted relevant?

If the article were about Elon Musk's racist views, then by all means I'd be fine with it. But his (or Grok's) racism is irrelevant to the laws he is violating. Would it be OK if a well respected billionaire flouted those laws?

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Post by BeetleB »

nearlyepic wrote: post #12
BeetleB wrote: post #4

I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

Hardly irrelevant. The purpose is establishing a pattern of abusive behavior so this can't be dismissed as a "misunderstanding".

Then show me a pattern of flouting regulations (which I can easily believe he has). His terrible views on unrelated issues are irrelevant.

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Post by culi »

jackb4040 wrote: post #37
culi wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Colossus I Data Center was brought online in 122 days from breaking ground to operation. Some hail that as an achievement, but others (like myself) see it as a brutal pace to avoid having to answer pesky questions like "How will this affect the nearby area?" and "What sort of mitigation plans to do you have for the data center's waste?" The data center is powered by dozens of unpermitted gas turbines, which the…

Oh I fully agree, if it wasn't clear I am supporting the most radical conclusions you could possibly take from your original comment. I hope that wasn't you downvoting, and just the bots that activate whenever you mention a certain New York financier.

I didn't downvote your comment. I assume it's the same bots that flagged this post immediately. Call me a tinfoil hatter, but I've come to the belief that the data center lobbyists likely have bot armies to alert them there's negative discussions around data centers going on on HN

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Post by BeetleB »

throwaway27448 wrote: post #16
BeetleB wrote: post #4

I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

What part offended you? The statement of fact?

The statement of irrelevant facts.

It's like criticizing Stallman's hygiene. Who cares?

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Post by torh »

etchalon wrote: post #34
miyoji wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The HN crowd that doesn't seem to get it is like that because they're either white collar criminals themselves, or they work for such criminals.

"It's only a crime because it's against the law." - someone, inevitably

"Why should you go to jail for a crime someone else ... noticed" — Bob Loblaw

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Post by BeetleB »

grey-area wrote: post #8
BeetleB wrote: post #4

I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

Was part of this incorrect?

I never claimed it was. Are you willing to read pointless stuff just because it's accurate?

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Post by miyoji »

deepsun wrote: post #17
culi wrote: post #2

> In the latest example of corporations existing outside of the law, SpaceX (who is for some reason the controlling entity of xAI now) announced they'll be removing the illegal, unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center... by July 2027. This is the thing the HN crowd doesn't seem to get whenever a post is on here about data centers. They are often times doing outright illegal…

Yes, and big part of it is public is ok with that. For example, did you protest while Uber was breaking many local laws while growing?

What? Do you think that public opinion drives prosecution decisions?

If that were true, no one would go to jail for marijuana possession.

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Post by BeetleB »

jalev wrote: post #9
BeetleB wrote: post #4

I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

Why would these be irrelevant when they're examples of Musk biasing the LLM? Do you think these things came out of nowhere?

Correct me if I'm wrong: Is the article about a badly acting LLM?
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