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xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

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Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

#12
post #4

I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

Hardly irrelevant. The purpose is establishing a pattern of abusive behavior so this can't be dismissed as a "misunderstanding".

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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> In the latest example of corporations existing outside of the law, SpaceX (who is for some reason the controlling entity of xAI now) announced they'll be removing the illegal, unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center... by July 2027. This is the thing the HN crowd doesn't seem to get whenever a post is on here about data centers. They are often times doing outright illegal…

I mean it depends what you mean by "we". There are laws on the books to do so, they've just never been used against Epstein associates like Musk. We have a surface system of politics and laws, and then a deep system. Sovereign is he who decides on the exception.

> The Colossus I Data Center was brought online in 122 days from breaking ground to operation. Some hail that as an achievement, but others (like myself) see it as a brutal pace to avoid having to answer pesky questions like "How will this affect the nearby area?" and "What sort of mitigation plans to do you have for the data center's waste?" The data center is powered by dozens of unpermitted gas turbines, which they initially refused to acknowledge were running until journalists and groups used thermal imaging to prove they were indeed on and spewing toxins into the air (including smog, formaldehyde, and other nasty things). This resulted in a suit from the Southern Environmental Law Center (SELC) on behalf of the NAACP for violations of the Clean Air Act. Their claim was that the company operated without public oversight or accountability for these illegal constructions and sought legal stoppage until proper accounting can be done of the effects of said turbines.

This is what I'm talking about. A non-profit and random journalists shouldn't be the ones holding them accountable in the first place. And a "lawsuit" is hardly accountability either. People need to go to prison for white collar crime.

> Enter the Federal Government and the Department of Justice, who pushed the courts to dismiss the suit as a matter of national security, stating that the xAI models were needed for "artificial-intelligence innovation that supports the Department of War’s military operations." So, residents are left without legal means of contesting these developments, barring individual claims and damages.

And this is the reason why a "lawsuit" isn't accountability. When the company can just pay some politicians to get it dismissed.

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

#15
post #4

I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

Interesting, you encounter a fact you don’t like and just quit reading all together. What a curious way to engage with the world.

Not really, its a valid way to manage ones time, because if you deem the message to not be I the quality you expect, you can just find a better article.

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

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post #4

I don't like Elon Musk. I don't like Grok or xAI. Or X. Or Twitter before. I also don't like articles that try to bias readers with irrelevant details: > This includes Grok, which has thus far been involved in controversies including but not limited to: > Spreading antisemitic slurs and conspiracies while calling itself "Mecha-Hitler" > Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children >…

What part offended you? The statement of fact?

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

#17
post #2

> In the latest example of corporations existing outside of the law, SpaceX (who is for some reason the controlling entity of xAI now) announced they'll be removing the illegal, unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center... by July 2027. This is the thing the HN crowd doesn't seem to get whenever a post is on here about data centers. They are often times doing outright illegal…

Yes, and big part of it is public is ok with that. For example, did you protest while Uber was breaking many local laws while growing?

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

#18
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean it depends what you mean by "we". There are laws on the books to do so, they've just never been used against Epstein associates like Musk. We have a surface system of politics and laws, and then a deep system. Sovereign is he who decides on the exception.

> The Colossus I Data Center was brought online in 122 days from breaking ground to operation. Some hail that as an achievement, but others (like myself) see it as a brutal pace to avoid having to answer pesky questions like "How will this affect the nearby area?" and "What sort of mitigation plans to do you have for the data center's waste?" The data center is powered by dozens of unpermitted gas turbines, which the…

The federal government has tons of power but I'm like 99% sure the process for exercising it isn't "send a note to the courts saying this illegal stuff is actually super important for war n stuff" and then they just get lawsuits thrown out... right?

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

#19
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, you encounter a fact you don’t like and just quit reading all together. What a curious way to engage with the world.

Not really, its a valid way to manage ones time, because if you deem the message to not be I the quality you expect, you can just find a better article.

Sure, but you can hardly expect to interact with the world in a rational way if you explicitly decide to ignore it

Re: xAI, SpaceX, and the Race for AI Buildout

#20
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, you encounter a fact you don’t like and just quit reading all together. What a curious way to engage with the world.

Not really, its a valid way to manage ones time, because if you deem the message to not be I the quality you expect, you can just find a better article.

Should people disengage with Hn because they don't like your opinion?
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